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04-24-2019, 04:22 AM
#7881
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Joined APC: Oct 2012
Position: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
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How do you think Unions got LOA's while not in section 6 happen? How did AA pilots get a pay raise outside of section 6? How did AA get a min daily credit outside of section 6? By people *****ing, unity and a strong union jumping on opportunites when the company fails miserbly. Jetblue fails weekly and miserbly nearly monthly. They have the equivalent of a 20 year epoch failure yearly.
What would happen if everyone said enough to bailing out the company every month from their continued dropping the ball and short staffing? If everyone told them to pound sand with their incentive pay in violation of the CBA? Hell I would just like pilots to be able to recognize immedietly that it was a violation. The fact that many didn't just shows you that many didn't even read and understand the contract before voting on it. How about making scheduling do their job? I've sat in airports in the middle of trips for hours and hours waiting for scheduling to do their jobs at previous airlines and jetblue. I'm still on duty and duty rig still applies until they get me somewhere. My rest also hasn't started yet as well. At previous airlines though scheisse like what happens almost weekly at jetblue wouldnt fly. I was absolutely shocked the first time I got off a plane in the middle of an IROP and the Captain was calling scheduling to see where we were suppose to go. In a previous life I was in their SOC during an IROP with the POI randomly picking crewmembers off the seniority list (FA's and pilots) and she then ask the scheduler where this person was at that moment. Never saw them get it wrong and not sure what the feds could do if they got it wrong but that is how it's suppose to work. Too few WM's and too many MM's, bandwagons, hyper's and southern's for it to ever work like it should at b6.
What would happen if everyone said enough to bailing out the company every month from their continued dropping the ball and short staffing? If everyone told them to pound sand with their incentive pay in violation of the CBA? Hell I would just like pilots to be able to recognize immedietly that it was a violation. The fact that many didn't just shows you that many didn't even read and understand the contract before voting on it. How about making scheduling do their job? I've sat in airports in the middle of trips for hours and hours waiting for scheduling to do their jobs at previous airlines and jetblue. I'm still on duty and duty rig still applies until they get me somewhere. My rest also hasn't started yet as well. At previous airlines though scheisse like what happens almost weekly at jetblue wouldnt fly. I was absolutely shocked the first time I got off a plane in the middle of an IROP and the Captain was calling scheduling to see where we were suppose to go. In a previous life I was in their SOC during an IROP with the POI randomly picking crewmembers off the seniority list (FA's and pilots) and she then ask the scheduler where this person was at that moment. Never saw them get it wrong and not sure what the feds could do if they got it wrong but that is how it's suppose to work. Too few WM's and too many MM's, bandwagons, hyper's and southern's for it to ever work like it should at b6.
This is very correct. I am a huge huge fan of not doing schedulings job. The only time I do more is if I can help out a customer. Like looking up on blue eye since I was stuck in an airport again for hours to tell the poor old lady that no your flight isn’t leaving on time like it says your pilots are still in JFK. They just won’t spend the money on operations. My only “hope” is that you can play around with ETOPS they have even said they need to tighten up so maybe just maybe the FAA will actually do it’s job (hello Boeing) and make jetblue grow up.
I still like jetblue I think most of us do it’s the operation that keeps pulling us back and the current management that is the problem. But overall the people we work with day to day our great. As always it could be so much better with just a few simple steps.
They are like the overweight person that knows how to drop the weight but keeps eating pizza because it’s cheap and easy while saying they are on a diet. Spend the money
04-25-2019, 04:23 AM
#7882
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04-25-2019, 06:38 AM
#7883
The REAL Bluedriver
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Position: Airbus Capt
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04-25-2019, 06:54 AM
#7884
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Joined APC: Feb 2011
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On the investor call. They said, in answer to a question about gaining ETOPS, that it would be done by the time the LR's turn up for launching London in 2021. Though, you are right, I didn't hear then say that ALL would be delivered in 2021
04-25-2019, 06:59 AM
#7885
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Also are those 13 LR’s really only for London flying with 6 daily flights/day? I was kinda under the impression London would be maybe 2x/day and that we would add some more destinations like AMS and DUB to justify starting an Etops program with special qualified crews. Just seems like a lot of leg work to fly to one city, albeit a lucrative one.
04-25-2019, 07:00 AM
#7886
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Position: Airbus Capt
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*ALL* in 2021 is exactly what I'm questioning. I have not seen that disclosed anywhere.
04-25-2019, 07:00 AM
#7887
The REAL Bluedriver
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Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,918
Also are those 13 LR’s really only for London flying with 6 daily flights/day? I was kinda under the impression London would be maybe 2x/day and that we would add some more destinations like AMS and DUB to justify starting an Etops program with special qualified crews. Just seems like a lot of leg work to fly to one city, albeit a lucrative one.
04-28-2019, 02:11 PM
#7888
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Position: fifi whisperer
Posts: 1,255
Random question-
Contractually, all the rest of the RSV rules (and global opentime) have to be implemented no later than Jan 1. 2020. Clearly, there are parts of the contract that benefit the company significantly. Is there any hope with them turning on the rest of the rules earlier than Dec. 31st 2019?
Contractually, all the rest of the RSV rules (and global opentime) have to be implemented no later than Jan 1. 2020. Clearly, there are parts of the contract that benefit the company significantly. Is there any hope with them turning on the rest of the rules earlier than Dec. 31st 2019?
04-28-2019, 02:25 PM
#7889
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Joined APC: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,122
Random question-
Contractually, all the rest of the RSV rules (and global opentime) have to be implemented no later than Jan 1. 2020. Clearly, there are parts of the contract that benefit the company significantly. Is there any hope with them turning on the rest of the rules earlier than Dec. 31st 2019?
Contractually, all the rest of the RSV rules (and global opentime) have to be implemented no later than Jan 1. 2020. Clearly, there are parts of the contract that benefit the company significantly. Is there any hope with them turning on the rest of the rules earlier than Dec. 31st 2019?
04-28-2019, 04:44 PM
#7890
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Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 478
Random question-
Contractually, all the rest of the RSV rules (and global opentime) have to be implemented no later than Jan 1. 2020. Clearly, there are parts of the contract that benefit the company significantly. Is there any hope with them turning on the rest of the rules earlier than Dec. 31st 2019?
Contractually, all the rest of the RSV rules (and global opentime) have to be implemented no later than Jan 1. 2020. Clearly, there are parts of the contract that benefit the company significantly. Is there any hope with them turning on the rest of the rules earlier than Dec. 31st 2019?
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