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04-09-2019, 06:34 AM
#7801
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Joined APC: Mar 2019
Posts: 315
No, I came in with just a CRJ type...IMO the 190 I think is the most low-key training program for a pt.121 operator out there.
I think it’s because the 190 is more of a conventional airplane vs the Airbus. I’m not typed on the A320, but you have to learn the different laws and all the different quirks makes it a little more challenging. I wouldn’t make a decision based on training difficulty though.
I think it’s because the 190 is more of a conventional airplane vs the Airbus. I’m not typed on the A320, but you have to learn the different laws and all the different quirks makes it a little more challenging. I wouldn’t make a decision based on training difficulty though.
04-09-2019, 06:45 AM
#7802
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Joined APC: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,013
What if they don’t offer the 190 for your class? You also know being on the 190 doesn’t immune you from deadheading around on the Airbus making 25% less right? I also haven’t see anyone on the seniority list switch to the 190 unless for an upgrade event. Maybe it’s coming, but I highly doubt it.
04-09-2019, 06:50 AM
#7804
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Joined APC: Mar 2019
Posts: 315
Have you read the fumes thread? How is not a smart decision to try to minimize a health risk?
04-09-2019, 07:02 AM
#7805
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Joined APC: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,013
If it does for you then by all means go to the 190, that’s your choice. Im staying on the 190 for other reasons. I’m just telling you that you’d be in the minority choosing the 190 because of Airbus fumes. The fact that all the Airbus slots goes to the oldest/senior new-hire pilots and the 190 mass exodus on the quarterly system bid would show that.
04-09-2019, 07:38 AM
#7806
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,920
Because the risk doesn’t outweigh the loss in pay, better/easier trips etc...
If it does for you then by all means go to the 190, that’s your choice. Im staying on the 190 for other reasons. I’m just telling you that you’d be in the minority choosing the 190 because of Airbus fumes. The fact that all the Airbus slots goes to the oldest/senior new-hire pilots and the 190 mass exodus on the quarterly system bid would show that.
If it does for you then by all means go to the 190, that’s your choice. Im staying on the 190 for other reasons. I’m just telling you that you’d be in the minority choosing the 190 because of Airbus fumes. The fact that all the Airbus slots goes to the oldest/senior new-hire pilots and the 190 mass exodus on the quarterly system bid would show that.
04-09-2019, 08:03 AM
#7807
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Joined APC: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,013
So what about the minority Airbus drivers like yourself I assume, who fully understand the health implications? Literally zero are switching to the 190 unless for an upgrade or maybe some major QOL issues. The fumes are a risk, but all it takes is a right click of a mouse quarterly on Flica and risk averted....wonder why.
04-09-2019, 08:39 AM
#7808
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,920
So what about the minority Airbus drivers like yourself I assume, who fully understand the health implications? Literally zero are switching to the 190 unless for an upgrade or maybe some major QOL issues. The fumes are a risk, but all it takes is a right click of a mouse quarterly on Flica and risk averted....wonder why.
To be honest, I am very much looking forward to the A220 and A321NEOs so that I have viable options to escape the gas-chamber.
But I was serious previously when I said I am heavily triggered towards my O2 mask.
04-09-2019, 08:46 AM
#7809
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Joined APC: Mar 2019
Posts: 315
You were right to point out that even those that understand the problem usually stay for the better pay and easier workload. You were largely wrong to point towards new hires and dudes leaving the E180 as evidence, because they don't know what they don't know.
To be honest, I am very much looking forward to the A220 and A321NEOs so that I have viable options to escape the gas-chamber.
But I was serious previously when I said I am heavily triggered towards my O2 mask.
To be honest, I am very much looking forward to the A220 and A321NEOs so that I have viable options to escape the gas-chamber.
But I was serious previously when I said I am heavily triggered towards my O2 mask.
I agree about the 220, it is very exciting. First delivery is August of 2020 I heard? It is probably going to be very senior.
04-09-2019, 09:12 AM
#7810
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Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 478
Airbus training with JB was the easiest aviation course I have ever undergone. The 190 guys in my class reported the same experience. The average bar tab among us would confirm this informal claim.
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