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Old 10-10-2018, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by PasserOGas
According to this article it's $2-3B for the expansion.

https://thepointsguy.com/news/jetblu...ansion-at-jfk/

So maybe more than half our market cap. I didn't realize how expensive it was going to be. This doesn't bode well for expanding the fleet size. We will be leveraged up to the hilt.

If we had held cash instead of buying back $1B of stock at $22/share maybe it wouldn't require as much financing.
Maybe we can use the steady stream of profits from our tech ventures to pay for it.

Agree the stock buy back is a waste. Whats worse, is that after pumping that much money into the company, all we have to show for it is a 20% decline in stock price. A true waste.


However, if we are purchased, the real estate we control (like JFK 5-7) would likely be the biggest selling point. So I don't think spending the money on real estate is a bad course of action (as opposed to spending billions on something that costs 1B+ to lose 20%.
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Old 10-10-2018, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by seekingblue
Agree the stock buy back is a waste. Whats worse, is that after pumping that much money into the company, all we have to show for it is a 20% decline in stock price. A true waste.


However, if we are purchased, the real estate we control (like JFK 5-7) would likely be the biggest selling point. So I don't think spending the money on real estate is a bad course of action (as opposed to spending billions on something that costs 1B+ to lose 20%.
I actually agree. While tying up that much capital in the terminal 6-7 will hurt the junior pilots (until we can afford to grow again if ever), at least it's a smart business move.

I do wonder though, is JFK slot restricted or gate restricted? In other words will the new gates be worth much if the runways/airspace is already saturated? I honestly don't know.
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Old 10-10-2018, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by PasserOGas
I actually agree. While tying up that much capital in the terminal 6-7 will hurt the junior pilots (until we can afford to grow again if ever), at least it's a smart business move.

I do wonder though, is JFK slot restricted or gate restricted? In other words will the new gates be worth much if the runways/airspace is already saturated? I honestly don't know.
Jfk is slot restricted. The slot control is rumored to be lifted in the next year or two, though, and gate space will become the limfac.
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Old 10-10-2018, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
Jfk is slot restricted. The slot control is rumored to be lifted in the next year or two, though, and gate space will become the limfac.
Half the company is a big chunk to bet on the slots being lifted.
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Old 10-10-2018, 02:35 PM
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Old 10-10-2018, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by PasserOGas
Half the company is a big chunk to bet on the slots being lifted.
It is a lot, but regardless of what happens with slots JB will make $$$ by leasing gate space to our many codeshare partners. They will probably make more money doing that than anything else (well, potato farming is a close 2nd )
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Old 10-10-2018, 03:46 PM
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It is a lot, but regardless of what happens with slots JB will make $$$ by leasing gate space to our many codeshare partners. They will probably make more money doing that than anything else (well, potato farming is a close 2nd )
Dude... don't forget pizza to the west coast. we're gonna kill it. 30min Dominoes got nothin on NYC to the LGB...
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Old 10-10-2018, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
It is a lot, but regardless of what happens with slots JB will make $$$ by leasing gate space to our many codeshare partners. They will probably make more money doing that than anything else (well, potato farming is a close 2nd )

And all of the restaurants and bars and shops and everything else. They will be just fine.
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Old 10-10-2018, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
And all of the restaurants and bars and shops and everything else. They will be just fine.
remember, McDonald's is not a hamburger company, it is a real estate company.
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Old 10-11-2018, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by hilltopflyer
Holding a line in jfk in 4-5 months really? Wow didn’t know it dropped that low.
Not at all! I have been here a year and I still can't hold a line on the bus in JFK. In fact there were over 20 guys ahead of me on the november awards.
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