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Old 06-12-2018, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by hilltopflyer
Automatic no vote for me if this is allowed. But we are supposed to have industry leading scope in it so we will see what they call industry leading.
Impossible to have industry leading scope unless someone really believes it’s better than SW’s.
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Old 06-12-2018, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by likeitis
Impossible to have industry leading scope unless someone really believes it’s better than SW’s.
It's what they said in the aip. Unless I'm mistaken
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Old 06-12-2018, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by hilltopflyer
It's what they said in the aip. Unless I'm mistaken
The AIP bulletpoints do not say industry leading scope anywhere. Just says “No jetblue express. Limitations on codeshares and JVs. Limitations on C91 flying.”

We will see what it actually says if we ever get a TA, but it won’t be SWA level I don’t think.
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Old 06-12-2018, 10:53 AM
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Industry leading pairing construction rules, aside from that it says no jetblue express. That’s it...just fyi this AIP is about to go sideways. We have been played and lost. JB management 1, pilots 0. Nothing will be finalized by Aug. So, let’s keep bailing the company out for your own personal monetary gain.
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Old 06-12-2018, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by rvr1800
Maybe so. Or maybe you could just tell us what you heard there?
You need to ask Hyper, they gave him all the really good top-secret stuff.

They only give me the regular stuff that leaves me with the same questions as you...
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Old 06-12-2018, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by windrider
Industry leading pairing construction rules, aside from that it says no jetblue express. That’s it...just fyi this AIP is about to go sideways. We have been played and lost. JB management 1, pilots 0. Nothing will be finalized by Aug. So, let’s keep bailing the company out for your own personal monetary gain.
If this happens it's time to put out a strike vote immediately or a vote of no confidence in the mec/nc. I'd prefer the first option.
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Old 06-14-2018, 06:40 AM
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For people wondering what it’s like at BlewJet...

There’s a 4-day sitting in open time for JFK FO 320. On day 4, transcon FLL-LAX, then deadhead to JFK. 5:22 block out there, then 5:33 of middle seat torture deadheading back... and even if a mint seat is open, you’re not allowed to sit in it.

Did you know that “Caring” is our #2 core value?


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Old 06-14-2018, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by captsurf
For people wondering what it’s like at BlewJet...

There’s a 4-day sitting in open time for JFK FO 320. On day 4, transcon FLL-LAX, then deadhead to JFK. 5:22 block out there, then 5:33 of middle seat torture deadheading back... and even if a mint seat is open, you’re not allowed to sit in it.

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Yeah, so, bad example.

That's almost 11:00 of credit for one day of work, and if you're a commuter you can self yourself at the end. I'd be at my house by around 4:00 p.m., instead of midnight when I commute home from JFK.

Wish I could make that one work.
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Old 06-14-2018, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by jtrain609
Yeah, so, bad example.

That's almost 11:00 of credit for one day of work, and if you're a commuter you can self yourself at the end. I'd be at my house by around 4:00 p.m., instead of midnight when I commute home from JFK.

Wish I could make that one work.

Don't forget to don the blue gloves on your way out as well....

I'll be looking in the "contract" to see if it has prohibitions against unpaid ancilliary, non-CFR mandated pilot duties.

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Old 06-14-2018, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by jtrain609
Yeah, so, bad example.



That's almost 11:00 of credit for one day of work, and if you're a commuter you can self yourself at the end. I'd be at my house by around 4:00 p.m., instead of midnight when I commute home from JFK.



Wish I could make that one work.


My point was more or less directed at having to sit in the back for 5.5hrs after flying for 5hrs (likely in the middle seat). Regardless of how much you’d credit that day, we still shouldn’t be treated that way. And what about the guys that live near JFK that have to endure that deadhead home... they’d be better off selfing and listing themselves on Delta or AA and likely get a business class seat Home to the same airport... but yes, I understand your point


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