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06-04-2018, 08:51 AM
#6431
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Joined APC: May 2012
Posts: 1,099
The fact that pilots are talking objectively about the AIP is extremely important.
There will always be the blowhards(myself included) who are pi$$ed and "deserve" more but the reality is each pilot needs to dig deep on this one.
Jetblue pilots have sent 3 distinct messages in 18 years. This could be the 4th.
There will always be the blowhards(myself included) who are pi$$ed and "deserve" more but the reality is each pilot needs to dig deep on this one.
Jetblue pilots have sent 3 distinct messages in 18 years. This could be the 4th.
06-04-2018, 08:53 AM
#6432
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Joined APC: May 2009
Posts: 313
I’m fine with the 190 rates. I didn’t expect to see much. The 195 is a whole different story. If this passes I will guarantee a 195-e2 order. I wish I knew because this is a no vote from me now
06-04-2018, 09:06 AM
#6433
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Joined APC: Dec 2008
Position: Left,Right, Left, Right,Right,Left, Right, Left
Posts: 3,150
IMO the 190 rates should at a minimum match C100.
They should be on par with the 717 and c300.
There is no reason to pay that plane so much less just because it has ERJ in the name. If it said A190 or B190 it'd pay 225+ an hour.
This is part of the bullets that does pÍss me off, and I could go hold a line on the bus.
06-04-2018, 09:12 AM
#6434
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Joined APC: Sep 2006
Posts: 332
How is it different? It's a DC9... a 717. our 190's weigh more and go further than a DAL 717. we could configure them to more than 100 seats we choose not to. seats are not the deciding pay factor.
IMO the 190 rates should at a minimum match C100.
They should be on par with the 717 and c300.
There is no reason to pay that plane so much less just because it has ERJ in the name. If it said A190 or B190 it'd pay 225+ an hour.
This is part of the bullets that does pÍss me off, and I could go hold a line on the bus.
IMO the 190 rates should at a minimum match C100.
They should be on par with the 717 and c300.
There is no reason to pay that plane so much less just because it has ERJ in the name. If it said A190 or B190 it'd pay 225+ an hour.
This is part of the bullets that does pÍss me off, and I could go hold a line on the bus.
06-04-2018, 09:29 AM
#6436
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Joined APC: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,010
How is it different? It's a DC9... a 717. our 190's weigh more and go further than a DAL 717. we could configure them to more than 100 seats we choose not to. seats are not the deciding pay factor.
IMO the 190 rates should at a minimum match C100.
They should be on par with the 717 and c300.
There is no reason to pay that plane so much less just because it has ERJ in the name. If it said A190 or B190 it'd pay 225+ an hour.
This is part of the bullets that does pÍss me off, and I could go hold a line on the bus.
IMO the 190 rates should at a minimum match C100.
They should be on par with the 717 and c300.
There is no reason to pay that plane so much less just because it has ERJ in the name. If it said A190 or B190 it'd pay 225+ an hour.
This is part of the bullets that does pÍss me off, and I could go hold a line on the bus.
I don't know the numbers, but Jetblue has said on several earning reports that Boston is their most lucrative flying. A lot of that flying is done by the 190.
06-04-2018, 09:32 AM
#6437
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Joined APC: Sep 2006
Posts: 332
How is it different? It's a DC9... a 717. our 190's weigh more and go further than a DAL 717. we could configure them to more than 100 seats we choose not to. seats are not the deciding pay factor.
IMO the 190 rates should at a minimum match C100.
They should be on par with the 717 and c300.
There is no reason to pay that plane so much less just because it has ERJ in the name. If it said A190 or B190 it'd pay 225+ an hour.
This is part of the bullets that does pÍss me off, and I could go hold a line on the bus.
IMO the 190 rates should at a minimum match C100.
They should be on par with the 717 and c300.
There is no reason to pay that plane so much less just because it has ERJ in the name. If it said A190 or B190 it'd pay 225+ an hour.
This is part of the bullets that does pÍss me off, and I could go hold a line on the bus.
Delta pays their 737-700 captains $273, and their MD-90 captains $259.
Those aircraft seat nearly the same amount of people, with the mad dog edging out the 737-700 by a few seats.
So go ahead and blame Delta too.
06-04-2018, 10:25 AM
#6439
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Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 1,132
How is it different? It's a DC9... a 717. our 190's weigh more and go further than a DAL 717. we could configure them to more than 100 seats we choose not to. seats are not the deciding pay factor.
IMO the 190 rates should at a minimum match C100.
They should be on par with the 717 and c300.
There is no reason to pay that plane so much less just because it has ERJ in the name. If it said A190 or B190 it'd pay 225+ an hour.
This is part of the bullets that does pÍss me off, and I could go hold a line on the bus.
IMO the 190 rates should at a minimum match C100.
They should be on par with the 717 and c300.
There is no reason to pay that plane so much less just because it has ERJ in the name. If it said A190 or B190 it'd pay 225+ an hour.
This is part of the bullets that does pÍss me off, and I could go hold a line on the bus.
Firstly, I agree that the E190 rates should be higher.
Secondly, is there a system of thought that could be used to objectively determine rate of pay for an aircraft? You mentioned maximum theoretical seat count. Personally I think the equation ought to include things like operating domain (e.g. international training, international destinations).
I'm not all that excited that there isn't a good solution to flying A321s into Europe without adequate compensation.
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06-04-2018, 10:34 AM
#6440
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Joined APC: Dec 2008
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Posts: 3,150
Sorry to do this twice, but there's further evidence that this doesn't hold water.
Delta pays their 737-700 captains $273, and their MD-90 captains $259.
Those aircraft seat nearly the same amount of people, with the mad dog edging out the 737-700 by a few seats.
So go ahead and blame Delta too.
Delta pays their 737-700 captains $273, and their MD-90 captains $259.
Those aircraft seat nearly the same amount of people, with the mad dog edging out the 737-700 by a few seats.
So go ahead and blame Delta too.
Not to mention the split you mentioned is a $15/hr margin. Not $52.
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