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03-14-2018, 09:48 AM
#5901
Banned
Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 1,132
Even if a lawsuit loses because it was a legitimate error, you still win because they now know they are on notice. At the very least they will finally pay attention to important functions like pay. You will force accountability of all the office jockeys who ridicule you openly with videos such as "IROP pants".
We are professionals and shall be treated as such.
We are professionals and shall be treated as such.
03-14-2018, 09:55 AM
#5903
Banned
Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 1,132
You're right... let's just keep bending over. Thank you sir, may I have another.
Rather than asking me to sue them, how about each of you contact your ALPA reps and demand a lawsuit. They have lawyers and 1.9%+ of your money. Let them give you excuses as to why a lawsuit is a waste of time, then vote them out of office or stop paying dues until they deliver results. ALPA is not the only union out there nor are they the only means of organizing. I don't think we should settle for controlled opposition. So, get ALPA to sue them.
Rather than asking me to sue them, how about each of you contact your ALPA reps and demand a lawsuit. They have lawyers and 1.9%+ of your money. Let them give you excuses as to why a lawsuit is a waste of time, then vote them out of office or stop paying dues until they deliver results. ALPA is not the only union out there nor are they the only means of organizing. I don't think we should settle for controlled opposition. So, get ALPA to sue them.
03-14-2018, 10:49 AM
#5904
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: At JBLU
Posts: 337
IIRC there was a lawsuit filed by a JETBLUE pilot for incorrectly managing our retirement funds. The company was not complying with federal regulations which governed its responsibility. We all OWE him a debt of gratitude. I think he posts here.
ERISA rules.
https://www.dol.gov/agencies/ebsa/ab...erisa-consumer
They stopped doing it. As far as I know.
Maybe we need to pressure the union to tackle this.
ERISA rules.
https://www.dol.gov/agencies/ebsa/ab...erisa-consumer
They stopped doing it. As far as I know.
Maybe we need to pressure the union to tackle this.
03-14-2018, 11:08 AM
#5905
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2012
Position: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
Posts: 2,928
03-14-2018, 11:10 AM
#5906
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2012
Position: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
Posts: 2,928
You're right... let's just keep bending over. Thank you sir, may I have another.
Rather than asking me to sue them, how about each of you contact your ALPA reps and demand a lawsuit. They have lawyers and 1.9%+ of your money. Let them give you excuses as to why a lawsuit is a waste of time, then vote them out of office or stop paying dues until they deliver results. ALPA is not the only union out there nor are they the only means of organizing. I don't think we should settle for controlled opposition. So, get ALPA to sue them.
Rather than asking me to sue them, how about each of you contact your ALPA reps and demand a lawsuit. They have lawyers and 1.9%+ of your money. Let them give you excuses as to why a lawsuit is a waste of time, then vote them out of office or stop paying dues until they deliver results. ALPA is not the only union out there nor are they the only means of organizing. I don't think we should settle for controlled opposition. So, get ALPA to sue them.
Why don’t you do it?
All of your post are you should do this or that and it should be like this so what are you doing? Oh wait let me guess you are educating all of us right?
03-14-2018, 11:10 AM
#5907
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2012
Position: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
Posts: 2,928
IIRC there was a lawsuit filed by a JETBLUE pilot for incorrectly managing our retirement funds. The company was not complying with federal regulations which governed its responsibility. We all OWE him a debt of gratitude. I think he posts here.
ERISA rules.
https://www.dol.gov/agencies/ebsa/ab...erisa-consumer
They stopped doing it. As far as I know.
Maybe we need to pressure the union to tackle this.
ERISA rules.
https://www.dol.gov/agencies/ebsa/ab...erisa-consumer
They stopped doing it. As far as I know.
Maybe we need to pressure the union to tackle this.
03-14-2018, 11:12 AM
#5908
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2012
Position: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
Posts: 2,928
It's just a means of communication. We also live in a world where no one listens to you if you don't swear every other word. If BJ is willing to wordsmith and use rhetorical devices in their anti-union communications, then we should indulge a little bit too, although without distorting actual data.
03-14-2018, 11:57 AM
#5909
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2014
Position: FO
Posts: 435
Thanks Mr Better job now Even Better Job
It’s not defending the company it’s pointing out that if there actually is theft (a big accusation) it should be investigated and a lawsuit filed like 3a was. If you can show it happens over and over as people say I would think that’s a great lawsuit or it’s just guys making an accusation on the internet with no intent to do anything about it. Maybe que can lead a group to sue over wage theft otherwise it’s a lot of talk.
Also if you look at what I posted you will see I don’t just trust them which is why I always check my pay.
It’s not defending the company it’s pointing out that if there actually is theft (a big accusation) it should be investigated and a lawsuit filed like 3a was. If you can show it happens over and over as people say I would think that’s a great lawsuit or it’s just guys making an accusation on the internet with no intent to do anything about it. Maybe que can lead a group to sue over wage theft otherwise it’s a lot of talk.
Also if you look at what I posted you will see I don’t just trust them which is why I always check my pay.
03-14-2018, 12:39 PM
#5910
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,920
I'll say it this way:
We explained to you, a "pro-pilot" guy, how this happens frequently to many of us and happens under a very, um, interesting, pattern. Your inclination was to say it was just an error...
With that in mind, what chance do you think we would have against a judge bought and paid-for by The Firm?
Next, which super awesome list would we be put on in current or future chief pilot Hyper's cubicle?
No thanks, I'll just continue to have to triple check rainmaker and make comments after each "error" until the union takes up the issue.
Who knows, maybe they just accidentally hit the delete button weeks later frequently. Could just be honest mistakes.
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