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Old 02-27-2018, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by slimothy
Thanks, CaptCool. I’m certain it’s the right move for me, but man do I hate going away to initial training! I’ll check in on you guys from time to time.
Probably the last place I would go to is SW. But to each their own and good luck. Lets not forget they had a pretty ugly negotiations period with calling for a no confidence vote for GK with ad's in newspaper calling him out, and telling passengers their bags will get lost cause ground crew were not given pay raises. A massively outdated revenue platform, and its like flying regionals with 3-4 sometimes 5x a day.
So I'm sticking it out here cause at some point we'll catch up. This industry is like a game of musical chairs. Everyone goes through their crap and were it now. Tell me any other airline that hasn't been through what we in now. Its a zero sum game, hoping around is just a venture in futility unless said airline you want to go through relives you from commuting. At some point we'll probably merge or get bought and be equally circle jerking each other like all the other guys everywhere else. Until it all restarts again.
The biggest foible of us pilots is how amazingly fickle and bereft of the history of this industry.
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Old 02-27-2018, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by CyFo145
Probably the last place I would go to is SW. But to each their own and good luck. Lets not forget they had a pretty ugly negotiations period with calling for a no confidence vote for GK with ad's in newspaper calling him out, and telling passengers their bags will get lost cause ground crew were not given pay raises. A massively outdated revenue platform, and its like flying regionals with 3-4 sometimes 5x a day.
So I'm sticking it out here cause at some point we'll catch up. This industry is like a game of musical chairs. Everyone goes through their crap and were it now. Tell me any other airline that hasn't been through what we in now. Its a zero sum game, hoping around is just a venture in futility unless said airline you want to go through relives you from commuting. At some point we'll probably merge or get bought and be equally circle jerking each other like all the other guys everywhere else. Until it all restarts again.
The biggest foible of us pilots is how amazingly fickle and bereft of the history of this industry.
Now where did I put that 🍿

The biggest foible of us pilots is how amazingly fickle and bereft of the history of this industry

That is a great great point.
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Old 02-28-2018, 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by CyFo145
Probably the last place I would go to is SW. But to each their own and good luck. Lets not forget they had a pretty ugly negotiations period with calling for a no confidence vote for GK with ad's in newspaper calling him out, and telling passengers their bags will get lost cause ground crew were not given pay raises. A massively outdated revenue platform, and its like flying regionals with 3-4 sometimes 5x a day.
So I'm sticking it out here cause at some point we'll catch up. This industry is like a game of musical chairs. Everyone goes through their crap and were it now. Tell me any other airline that hasn't been through what we in now. Its a zero sum game, hoping around is just a venture in futility unless said airline you want to go through relives you from commuting. At some point we'll probably merge or get bought and be equally circle jerking each other like all the other guys everywhere else. Until it all restarts again.
The biggest foible of us pilots is how amazingly fickle and bereft of the history of this industry.
Classy......
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Old 02-28-2018, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by CyFo145
Probably the last place I would go to is SW. But to each their own and good luck. Lets not forget they had a pretty ugly negotiations period with calling for a no confidence vote for GK with ad's in newspaper calling him out, and telling passengers their bags will get lost cause ground crew were not given pay raises. A massively outdated revenue platform, and its like flying regionals with 3-4 sometimes 5x a day.
So I'm sticking it out here cause at some point we'll catch up. This industry is like a game of musical chairs. Everyone goes through their crap and were it now. Tell me any other airline that hasn't been through what we in now. Its a zero sum game, hoping around is just a venture in futility unless said airline you want to go through relives you from commuting. At some point we'll probably merge or get bought and be equally circle jerking each other like all the other guys everywhere else. Until it all restarts again.
The biggest foible of us pilots is how amazingly fickle and bereft of the history of this industry.
Like I said before, I never thought I’d leave for SWA either, but then I got to thinking. 3-4, sometimes 5 legs? I’m LGB based, so I do 2 types of flying, 3-4 legs a day up and down the coast, and transcon red eyes. So all I’m really doing is giving up red eyes.

Again, just sharing my thought process for other fence sitters to consider.
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Old 02-28-2018, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by slimothy
Like I said before, I never thought I’d leave for SWA either, but then I got to thinking. 3-4, sometimes 5 legs? I’m LGB based, so I do 2 types of flying, 3-4 legs a day up and down the coast, and transcon red eyes. So all I’m really doing is giving up red eyes.

Again, just sharing my thought process for other fence sitters to consider.
Welcome to SWA. Glad to see you're not letting a few people throwing out the same tired SWA hate speech discourage you. You'll find quite more diversity in trips than many posters on APC would ever lead you to believe. As you're LGB based I you assume you live in the LA Basin. With the recent announcement of the LAX base, your timing appears to be impeccable to get on board as I think LAX will end up being very junior. Congrats!
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Old 02-28-2018, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Burton78
Welcome to SWA. Glad to see you're not letting a few people throwing out the same tired SWA hate speech discourage you. You'll find quite more diversity in trips than many posters on APC would ever lead you to believe. As you're LGB based I you assume you live in the LA Basin. With the recent announcement of the LAX base, your timing appears to be impeccable to get on board as I think LAX will end up being very junior. Congrats!
Thanks, Burton. I’m looking forward to it. I’m not taking any of it personally. I’ve got tons of friends at SWA, and I know they are happy there. Most of the nay sayers are heavily invested in JB, and they might be a little defensive about their choice to stay, as I may be a little defensive about my choice to bail. We all have to live with our own choices, I’m confident in mine.
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Old 02-28-2018, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by slimothy
Like I said before, I never thought I’d leave for SWA either, but then I got to thinking. 3-4, sometimes 5 legs? I’m LGB based, so I do 2 types of flying, 3-4 legs a day up and down the coast, and transcon red eyes. So all I’m really doing is giving up red eyes.

Again, just sharing my thought process for other fence sitters to consider.
Congrats on the new gig Slim!

Just promise to not forget about us during the merger and seniority list integration
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Old 02-28-2018, 10:08 AM
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Congrats on the new gig Slim!

Just promise to not forget about us during the merger and seniority list integration
Haha. I won’t. One of my biggest fears about leaving is that my new company merged with JB and I end up junior to myself.
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Old 02-28-2018, 10:50 AM
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Haha. I won’t. One of my biggest fears about leaving is that my new company merged with JB and I end up junior to myself.
I hear ya, I wouldn't sweat worrying about something you can't control.

Besides, even if it does happen, high fences make good neighbors.
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Old 02-28-2018, 11:38 AM
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