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02-15-2018, 11:14 AM
#5681
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,236
Sorry forgot a word.
Everything is a cost in negotiations. If we NOT are talking about things that increase our compensation, then it's wasting our time.
When we have a CBA I am voting on the pillars and a market rate. I am not voting NO just because I don't get MINT seating.
Everything is a cost in negotiations. If we NOT are talking about things that increase our compensation, then it's wasting our time.
When we have a CBA I am voting on the pillars and a market rate. I am not voting NO just because I don't get MINT seating.
You got the missing word in there this time. Not in the right place though. And still makes a poor argument.
02-15-2018, 11:15 AM
#5682
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: B6
Posts: 1,047
Come on man this makes no sense at all. I’m sure others can think of some simple QOL examples that don’t increase our compensation that should absolutely be in a contract.
We already named the deadheading stuff.
How about check in via the jetcrew app? That’s ridiculous and has to go away.
How about the dependability policy? How there are days that trigger a review around holidays automatically but we don’t receive any special pay for those days. They can’t have it both ways.
How about hotel standards? Not compensation related yet still immensely important.
Should we ignore all these things?
We already named the deadheading stuff.
How about check in via the jetcrew app? That’s ridiculous and has to go away.
How about the dependability policy? How there are days that trigger a review around holidays automatically but we don’t receive any special pay for those days. They can’t have it both ways.
How about hotel standards? Not compensation related yet still immensely important.
Should we ignore all these things?
02-15-2018, 11:32 AM
#5683
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,920
Sorry forgot a word.
Everything is a cost in negotiations. If we are NOT talking about things that increase our compensation, then it's wasting our time.
When we have a CBA I am voting on the pillars and a market rate. I am not voting NO just because I don't get MINT seating.
Everything is a cost in negotiations. If we are NOT talking about things that increase our compensation, then it's wasting our time.
When we have a CBA I am voting on the pillars and a market rate. I am not voting NO just because I don't get MINT seating.
It literally costs the company nothing if there is an open Mint seat. There is no cost and no reason we shouldn't be put in an unsold Mint seat for a DH. Also, no middle's or 150%. Just like United.
Nothing more to say Hyper.
02-15-2018, 11:36 AM
#5684
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,236
And you weren’t just talking about Mint you specifically said anything not related to compensation is a waste of time.
It’s a pointless argument anyway because I trust in the NC we have. They won’t send it to the MEC unless it’s solid.
02-15-2018, 01:38 PM
#5686
Not A Janitor
Joined APC: Aug 2008
Posts: 814
You lost me. What’s required to check in? Cannot fly sick? Huh?
And you weren’t just talking about Mint you specifically said anything not related to compensation is a waste of time.
It’s a pointless argument anyway because I trust in the NC we have. They won’t send it to the MEC unless it’s solid.
And you weren’t just talking about Mint you specifically said anything not related to compensation is a waste of time.
It’s a pointless argument anyway because I trust in the NC we have. They won’t send it to the MEC unless it’s solid.
I trust in the NC too and I am thankful they won't bring us a bad TA that would likely pass due to the Hypers and others at JB who don't have high standards.
02-15-2018, 06:06 PM
#5687
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,236
/sarcasm
So let’s flip the argument a little using this statistic. We make about 1.5 times what Delta makes per seat. So we’ll take their 320 and 321 rates and multiply by 1.5 and end up at $384/hour and $401/hour. Let’s start from there and maybe we can meet in the middle. Our productivity should be rewarded shouldn’t it? The additional profit certainly isn’t returned in our current profit sharing formula.
02-15-2018, 06:27 PM
#5688
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2012
Position: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
Posts: 2,931
But Delta is so much bigger and they can afford it! If you don’t like it then leave!
/sarcasm
So let’s flip the argument a little using this statistic. We make about 1.5 times what Delta makes per seat. So we’ll take their 320 and 321 rates and multiply by 1.5 and end up at $384/hour and $401/hour. Let’s start from there and maybe we can meet in the middle. Our productivity should be rewarded shouldn’t it? The additional profit certainly isn’t returned in our current profit sharing formula.
/sarcasm
So let’s flip the argument a little using this statistic. We make about 1.5 times what Delta makes per seat. So we’ll take their 320 and 321 rates and multiply by 1.5 and end up at $384/hour and $401/hour. Let’s start from there and maybe we can meet in the middle. Our productivity should be rewarded shouldn’t it? The additional profit certainly isn’t returned in our current profit sharing formula.
Exactly right.
They had their chance and the blue it.
Game on. Numbers above just show that we have a solid case for and industry leading CBA.
Forget this ALK rate stuff
02-16-2018, 05:39 AM
#5689
Banned
Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 1,132
02-16-2018, 05:55 AM
#5690
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,920
Try to keep up, he was being sarcastic and using the other guys words against him.
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