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Old 02-07-2018, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
I don't "big talk". I make sure people know how truly far behind our peers we are. And I push back hard against those that put JB in a positive light.

Beyond that, I do NOT care if some guys who already don't like me say I've lost "credibility" with them. The same guys who told me I was "just being negative" and "contract will be done by summer 2017" or "contract will be done by end of 2017" or " just give them more time, it's almost done" and "the company knows they have to pay market rate". You guys lost credibility with me a LONG time ago.

The only real reason I responded to your comments tonight is because *I* had said something really stupid, and I wanted to say so.

Beyond that, take your "credibility" and shove it up your blue panties.
Yeah I’m such a company guy. You do you BD I’m done with this.
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Old 02-08-2018, 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Gordie H
Credit where credit is due. FWIW, I almost didn’t make it either for various reasons. It’s understood that it’s just not possible to attend all these things.

On aside, as I type with a nice scotch hum going it occurred to me that the next time I picket I might do so while being ever so slightly on the sauce. I mean, gotta take a day off, marching around in the damn cold, might as well…we ain’t operating, right? Someone please tell me this is a bad idea and thanks in advance…
No more than two! Otherwise, sounds good and I may join you if the waters nice...
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Old 02-08-2018, 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by rvr1800
Yeah I’m such a company guy. You do you BD I’m done with this.
I'm pretty sure you've said some of those things, or similar to me in the past. The company has done a pretty good job of turning guys that were pro-alpa AND pro-JB (not the management) into guys that are no longer "company guys", myself included. Joe should do that longer post about how we were both pro-alpa AND pro-JB. The company's actions and conduct changed me.

Yep, I know I can be a Richard to those on here who disagree with me about JB.

Looking forward to 2020 so we can finally all put this behind us.
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Old 02-08-2018, 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
I'm pretty sure you've said some of those things, or similar to me in the past. The company has done a pretty good job of turning guys that were pro-alpa AND pro-JB (not the management) into guys that are no longer "company guys", myself included. Joe should do that longer post about how we were both pro-alpa AND pro-JB. The company's actions and conduct changed me.

Yep, I know I can be a Richard to those on here who disagree with me about JB.

Looking forward to 2020 so we can finally all put this behind us.
Agree with all. But I’ll go with 2019.
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Old 02-08-2018, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by rvr1800
Agree with all. But I’ll go with 2019.
I think it depends on how angry this pilot group gets. They aren't going to sign until they feel some heat to do so. Either from the operation (pilot good will) or Wall Street.

Just my opinion...
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Old 02-08-2018, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by rvr1800
Agree with all. But I’ll go with 2019.
So that is when you think we will be able to strike?
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Old 02-08-2018, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Yeah Joe, and you guys weren't telling me how wrong I was for the last two years? Had you guys actually been right, and we had a deal done by summer 2017 or surely by end of year 2017, you would have all been telling me how wrong I was (again) and how right you were...

I don't believe for a second that you guys wouldn't have called me out for being wrong had this gone the way you guys thought. But it didn't, so you guys just focus on how meany meany I am.

See you still can’t help yourself.
Oh bluedriver it’s not all about you, but you make it so.
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Old 02-08-2018, 08:57 AM
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Anyone know for sure if the non-mediated negotiation session were cancelled for next week? I thought I heard it was but the alpa site still says it's scheduled.
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Old 02-08-2018, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by nuball5
Anyone know for sure if the non-mediated negotiation session were cancelled for next week? I thought I heard it was but the alpa site still says it's scheduled.
They’re still meeting. It’s a “final language meeting”. 2/26-3/2 is the next mediated session.
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Old 02-08-2018, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
Yes but you are not on here bashing away at our own and telling us how wrong we were and how right you are.

We all have a part to play but sometimes when the chips are down the loudest talkers have left the room.
This is the post I was replying to, was this not about me telling people how right I was?

If you guys would have been right about how this was going to go, you would have been sure to tell me how wrong I was, again.
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