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11-21-2017, 07:02 AM
#4702
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So in we landed and blasted off out of LGB as an uncontrolled field at 330am, surely waking everyone up as we flew across LA at 3000' on our way to Vandenberg AFB. Surely must have been a few "noise complaints" on that one.
11-21-2017, 10:17 AM
#4703
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Joined APC: Jul 2006
Position: A220 CA
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the gate agents said they were told that. i read an email from our ceo giving clarification on this. i won't go into all the detail, as i don't think he wanted it all out in public, but we are losing some slots (5 daily slots) but it is not because of failure to pay fines. as someone else said, our fine money has made a nice library. the slots were gained because of an improvement in the noise abatement and the noise abatement improvement went away, so the slots are going away.
there was also some stuff about changing destinations and re-jiggering sfo flying, etc.
but that rumor, which i thought wasn't a rumor because the gate agents were acting like they had official word, caught me by surprise and made me angry. this real news isn't as bad, and things sound a lot more positive.
there was also some stuff about changing destinations and re-jiggering sfo flying, etc.
but that rumor, which i thought wasn't a rumor because the gate agents were acting like they had official word, caught me by surprise and made me angry. this real news isn't as bad, and things sound a lot more positive.
11-21-2017, 10:39 AM
#4704
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Joined APC: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,122
the gate agents said they were told that. i read an email from our ceo giving clarification on this. i won't go into all the detail, as i don't think he wanted it all out in public, but we are losing some slots (5 daily slots) but it is not because of failure to pay fines. as someone else said, our fine money has made a nice library. the slots were gained because of an improvement in the noise abatement and the noise abatement improvement went away, so the slots are going away.
there was also some stuff about changing destinations and re-jiggering sfo flying, etc.
but that rumor, which i thought wasn't a rumor because the gate agents were acting like they had official word, caught me by surprise and made me angry. this real news isn't as bad, and things sound a lot more positive.
there was also some stuff about changing destinations and re-jiggering sfo flying, etc.
but that rumor, which i thought wasn't a rumor because the gate agents were acting like they had official word, caught me by surprise and made me angry. this real news isn't as bad, and things sound a lot more positive.
I don’t understand what you mean about reshuffling flying. What’s was said? I live in Socal and been at JB for 7 yrs. all I’ve heard were the same old rumors.
11-21-2017, 01:18 PM
#4705
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Position: A220 CA
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i'd rather not say. like i said, it was a personal email from the ceo and maybe he doesn't want what he said out in the public eye.
11-21-2017, 01:22 PM
#4706
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11-21-2017, 02:22 PM
#4707
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Joined APC: Oct 2012
Position: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
Posts: 2,931
The 5 slots are just going away or is SWA or someone else getting them. Seems like LGB is doing a great job if they want us gone.
11-21-2017, 04:50 PM
#4709
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Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: 320 CA
Posts: 5,674
In this document you can see how the noise budgeting works for LGB and new slots were recently created.
http://lgb.org/civicax/filebank/blob...px?BlobID=2991
My guess is that since the most recent "Noise Year" ended on Sept 30 you can see the results from the past year where LGB added the slots:
http://www.lgb.org/civicax/filebank/...px?BlobID=3258
Page 5 you can see that the Noise Budget was exceeded with 100.4% on one of their monitoring locations, so I believe this triggers the removal of the previously granted slots. It wouldn't be fair to just remove 1 slot (who gets to keep who gets removed) so they will remove all slots that were granted recently (5 for JB, 4 for SWA).
This is all just my guess based on some limited snooping on the LGB airport page
http://lgb.org/civicax/filebank/blob...px?BlobID=2991
My guess is that since the most recent "Noise Year" ended on Sept 30 you can see the results from the past year where LGB added the slots:
http://www.lgb.org/civicax/filebank/...px?BlobID=3258
Page 5 you can see that the Noise Budget was exceeded with 100.4% on one of their monitoring locations, so I believe this triggers the removal of the previously granted slots. It wouldn't be fair to just remove 1 slot (who gets to keep who gets removed) so they will remove all slots that were granted recently (5 for JB, 4 for SWA).
This is all just my guess based on some limited snooping on the LGB airport page
11-21-2017, 08:56 PM
#4710
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Position: A220 CA
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