JetBlue Latest and Greatest
11-07-2017, 06:03 AM
#4581
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,206
JetBlue Latest and Greatest
You are truly terrible about putting words into people’s mouths. I never said that. YOU said that, and it isn’t true.
I take an objective look at my positions on most aspects of my life on a regular basis, including my opinions about JB. It’s always good to give your opinions a good overhaul every once in a while. Not enough people do that these days.
I’ve never said that it is perfect here. Quite the contrary, as we have a lot of room for growth. That’s why ALPA was successful. That’s why we are negotiating to improve our situation. All I’ve ever said to you is that you are overly negative. You can see the weaknesses here, and make strides for improvement, yet still be positive about what we have.
11-07-2017, 06:37 AM
#4582
Not A Janitor
Joined APC: Aug 2008
Posts: 814
I’ve never said that it is perfect here. Quite the contrary, as we have a lot of room for growth. That’s why ALPA was successful. That’s why we are negotiating to improve our situation. All I’ve ever said to you is that you are overly negative. You can see the weaknesses here, and make strides for improvement, yet still be positive about what we have.
Some of us are accused of focusing on the negatives, but there are some pretty significant negatives here and it does a disservice to prospective applicants to gloss over or minimize these issues. Yes, yes, a CBA should fix many of those things, but who knows how many miserable years down the road that will be, with our shady "leadership" team trying their best to keep us compensated 30-40% less than our peers.
11-07-2017, 06:52 AM
#4583
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2006
Posts: 332
I'm struggling to list off things to be positive about here (yes, most of the crews are fantastic to work with.....but that can be said at many airlines). Perhaps you could help me? Hyper was unable to explain how "things keep getting better" after being asked for months to back up his claim.
Some of us are accused of focusing on the negatives, but there are some pretty significant negatives here and it does a disservice to prospective applicants to gloss over or minimize these issues. Yes, yes, a CBA should fix many of those things, but who knows how many miserable years down the road that will be, with our shady "leadership" team trying their best to keep us compensated 30-40% less than our peers.
Some of us are accused of focusing on the negatives, but there are some pretty significant negatives here and it does a disservice to prospective applicants to gloss over or minimize these issues. Yes, yes, a CBA should fix many of those things, but who knows how many miserable years down the road that will be, with our shady "leadership" team trying their best to keep us compensated 30-40% less than our peers.
11-07-2017, 07:06 AM
#4584
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,206
I'm struggling to list off things to be positive about here (yes, most of the crews are fantastic to work with.....but that can be said at many airlines). Perhaps you could help me? Hyper was unable to explain how "things keep getting better" after being asked for months to back up his claim.
Some of us are accused of focusing on the negatives, but there are some pretty significant negatives here and it does a disservice to prospective applicants to gloss over or minimize these issues. Yes, yes, a CBA should fix many of those things, but who knows how many miserable years down the road that will be, with our shady "leadership" team trying their best to keep us compensated 30-40% less than our peers.
Some of us are accused of focusing on the negatives, but there are some pretty significant negatives here and it does a disservice to prospective applicants to gloss over or minimize these issues. Yes, yes, a CBA should fix many of those things, but who knows how many miserable years down the road that will be, with our shady "leadership" team trying their best to keep us compensated 30-40% less than our peers.
Look man. I don’t owe you anything. I wrote out a fairly involved answer to you, and realized that you don’t actually read what anyone else posts. Your goal is to snipe and be negative, and anything that anyone writes is just more fodder for you to attack. So, have a good day. And good luck with your applications. I really hope that you’re successful in leaving. You’ll get exactly what you deserve.
11-07-2017, 07:12 AM
#4585
Not A Janitor
Joined APC: Aug 2008
Posts: 814
Pointing out far superior work rules and job conditions at a regional airline in an attempt to illustrate just how far behind we are here for those who are blissfully unaware is not the same as wishing to go back to a regional. Nice strawman though.
11-07-2017, 07:20 AM
#4586
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,920
Not if you have a rational and objective look. I don’t have a positive outlook. I look for both the negative and the positive, and call it like I see it. You ALWAYS call it negative. Always.
Some here are the opposite of you, for sure and yes, confirmation bias works for them too.
Some here are the opposite of you, for sure and yes, confirmation bias works for them too.
Then you say "some" (others) on here are susceptible to positive confirmation bias, but surely not you!
So there it is. You are the truly unbiased arbiter of honest true assessment. Not susceptible to known or unknown bias! Un-#$##n'g believable!
11-07-2017, 07:22 AM
#4587
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2006
Posts: 332
My point was for you to terminate your employment obligations here.
11-07-2017, 07:29 AM
#4588
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,206
Here it is Southerner. I simply asked if confirmation bias works both ways. You said, essentially, that it doesn't afflict you because you are "rational" and "objective" and look for both the "positive" and "negative" and call it as *you* see it.
Then you say "some" (others) on here are susceptible to positive confirmation bias, but surely not you!
So there it is. You are the truly unbiased arbiter of honest true assessment. Not susceptible to known or unknown bias! Un-#$##n'g believable!
Then you say "some" (others) on here are susceptible to positive confirmation bias, but surely not you!
So there it is. You are the truly unbiased arbiter of honest true assessment. Not susceptible to known or unknown bias! Un-#$##n'g believable!
There you go, putting words in my mouth dude. Here’s a hint, if it isn’t in the quote above, I didn’t say it. I didn’t say that I wasn’t susceptible to confirmation bias. I said that I take a nice hard look at my own opinions and biases. That’s more than you can say for yourself, mostly, I suspect, because you are incapable of doing so.
This is why we can’t have a nice clean discussion. You don’t realize when your interpretation is creeping into your comprehension of what you’re reading. You aren’t intellectually honest. And you aren’t good at reading comprehension as a result.
Good day.
11-07-2017, 07:36 AM
#4589
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2012
Position: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
Posts: 2,928
How many are blissfully unaware?
One of the highest ALPA votes ever.
Almost 100% membership.
Huge turnouts at both rallys
So maybe you have a straw man argument.
Pretty much everyone knows what's up we just deal with it in different ways.
Cue the stories of a stand up pa or a guy not wearing a lanyard as proof we won't get a contract anytime soon.
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