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11-03-2017, 05:54 AM
#4521
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Any thoughts on how the Alaska/Virgin award could affect us? Positive or negative? To me, it seems like a glimpse of what to expect from Jetblue when the final offers come through. My trust in the arbitration process is non existent, I hope we don't end up there.
We will not go to arbitration unless the membership requests it. That won't happen.
11-03-2017, 06:49 AM
#4522
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As far as binding arbitration - its pretty risky business. Can you imagine if the arbitrator ruled to not increase wages at all? They would be up the creek without a paddle and that is not worth it.
11-03-2017, 07:42 AM
#4523
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Yeah arbitration was already in their CBA. I’m not sure why they would ever agree to put that in there though!
11-03-2017, 07:47 AM
#4524
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This was by no means perfect but at least they can move forward.
11-03-2017, 08:43 AM
#4525
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Reading last nights negotiating update, it made it sound like they'll be negotiating without the mediator this month and December. Anyone know if this is just to resolve final language on existing agreements or actual negotiating sessions on open issues?
11-03-2017, 08:45 AM
#4526
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Yeah, the lack of scope is a big deal. But at least the rates are in now, so we have all of the numbers to compare with for our own negotiations.
11-03-2017, 08:48 AM
#4527
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It's like reading tea leaves. lol
11-03-2017, 08:52 AM
#4528
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Dunno. The first time the emails mentioned meetings without the mediator, they said that they were to clean up language in other sections. My friend who was an ALPA negotiator at his last airline said that this is a very positive sign that they are close to a deal, and they want to get the language as close as possible so once the money sections are complete the rest of the language is ready to go.
It's like reading tea leaves. lol
It's like reading tea leaves. lol
11-03-2017, 09:04 AM
#4529
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As someone who lived through fairly crappy (7 year) negotiations before, those emails are positive. They are making progress. That’s good, no matter what. We aren’t on ice. We aren’t at an impasse.
I’m researching the question about negotiating without the mediator. Unsure. -Edit- Yes they can negotiate without the mediator.
11-03-2017, 09:16 AM
#4530
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House cleaning on final language of sections already TAed. This is also not first mention.
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