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10-07-2017, 09:34 AM
#4361
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Joined APC: Oct 2012
Posts: 128
There seems to be confusion on what "privatization" means as it is currently being proposed. As a not-for-profit, with user fees (mainly paid by airlines) ATC will have an actual steady stream of income to plan for system upgrades. They currently operate under the whim of Congress and their funding which isn't consistent from year to year.
The implementation of next-gen has taken much to longer than it should have under the current system. Aircraft are required to have ADS-B but not all ATC facilities have the equipment for it. That allows for tighter separation which provides greater capacity.
Implementation of Data Comm is another example. Slow to be implemented that allows greater capacity.
The implementation of next-gen has taken much to longer than it should have under the current system. Aircraft are required to have ADS-B but not all ATC facilities have the equipment for it. That allows for tighter separation which provides greater capacity.
Implementation of Data Comm is another example. Slow to be implemented that allows greater capacity.
Also, CPDLC in Oceanic is awesome. As far as picking up the clearance at a domestic airport, I could care less. PDC is almost easier.
10-07-2017, 10:00 AM
#4363
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Joined APC: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,473
Or just wear the bomber jacket, or north Face since they hate the bomber jacket. Is it your responsibility to make sure the highly trained professionals we work with do their job properly?
10-07-2017, 01:05 PM
#4364
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Joined APC: Dec 2008
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Posts: 3,150
10-07-2017, 05:58 PM
#4365
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Joined APC: Nov 2016
Position: 320 FO
Posts: 143
Decreasing separation will result in what? More planes to arrive at 13L in JFK? At 22 in Laguardia? As has been pointed out, this is a runway issue. Can't put 2 airplanes on the runway at the same time. And there's Wake turbulence. We're 'closely separated ' enough already.
Also, CPDLC in Oceanic is awesome. As far as picking up the clearance at a domestic airport, I could care less. PDC is almost easier.
Also, CPDLC in Oceanic is awesome. As far as picking up the clearance at a domestic airport, I could care less. PDC is almost easier.
10-08-2017, 09:27 AM
#4367
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Joined APC: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,445
There seems to be confusion on what "privatization" means as it is currently being proposed. As a not-for-profit, with user fees (mainly paid by airlines) ATC will have an actual steady stream of income to plan for system upgrades. They currently operate under the whim of Congress and their funding which isn't consistent from year to year.
The implementation of next-gen has taken much to longer than it should have under the current system. Aircraft are required to have ADS-B but not all ATC facilities have the equipment for it. That allows for tighter separation which provides greater capacity.
Implementation of Data Comm is another example. Slow to be implemented that allows greater capacity.
The implementation of next-gen has taken much to longer than it should have under the current system. Aircraft are required to have ADS-B but not all ATC facilities have the equipment for it. That allows for tighter separation which provides greater capacity.
Implementation of Data Comm is another example. Slow to be implemented that allows greater capacity.
Secondly, there needs to be a carve out for GA. Planes smaller than XXXlbs shouldn't pay fees, or we will see the end of GA in this country.
10-08-2017, 10:38 AM
#4368
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First off, privatization only helps if there is constant competition. Otherwise you end up with a state sanctioned monopoly. I would argue you would get a worse product.
Secondly, there needs to be a carve out for GA. Planes smaller than XXXlbs shouldn't pay fees, or we will see the end of GA in this country.
Secondly, there needs to be a carve out for GA. Planes smaller than XXXlbs shouldn't pay fees, or we will see the end of GA in this country.
10-09-2017, 01:41 PM
#4369
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Joined APC: Jul 2015
Posts: 917
Found this data interesting and supports what I've been saying to folks about LGB and how we should dump it/cut back/or move operations to another CA airport and how we keep flying half empty Airbus planes up/down the coast when ww could be entering or expanding into other markets
DOT data for Q1 2017
nsmiles Market B6 fare Avg LF%
236 LASLGB $100 76
372 LGBOAK $98 70
372 LGBSFO $98 68
372 LGBSJC $94 59
404 LGBSMF $113 81
415 LGBRNO $105 88
590 LGBSLC $114 79
859 LGBPDX $98 91
978 LGBSEA $112 93
1242 AUSLGB $177 91
2510 LGBJFK $232 80
2611 BOSLGB $233 80
DOT data for Q1 2017
nsmiles Market B6 fare Avg LF%
236 LASLGB $100 76
372 LGBOAK $98 70
372 LGBSFO $98 68
372 LGBSJC $94 59
404 LGBSMF $113 81
415 LGBRNO $105 88
590 LGBSLC $114 79
859 LGBPDX $98 91
978 LGBSEA $112 93
1242 AUSLGB $177 91
2510 LGBJFK $232 80
2611 BOSLGB $233 80
10-10-2017, 05:25 AM
#4370
SDQ Base Chief
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: 320 CA
Posts: 5,659
Found this data interesting and supports what I've been saying to folks about LGB and how we should dump it/cut back/or move operations to another CA airport and how we keep flying half empty Airbus planes up/down the coast when ww could be entering or expanding into other markets
DOT data for Q1 2017
nsmiles Market B6 fare Avg LF%
236 LASLGB $100 76
372 LGBOAK $98 70
372 LGBSFO $98 68
372 LGBSJC $94 59
404 LGBSMF $113 81
415 LGBRNO $105 88
590 LGBSLC $114 79
859 LGBPDX $98 91
978 LGBSEA $112 93
1242 AUSLGB $177 91
2510 LGBJFK $232 80
2611 BOSLGB $233 80
DOT data for Q1 2017
nsmiles Market B6 fare Avg LF%
236 LASLGB $100 76
372 LGBOAK $98 70
372 LGBSFO $98 68
372 LGBSJC $94 59
404 LGBSMF $113 81
415 LGBRNO $105 88
590 LGBSLC $114 79
859 LGBPDX $98 91
978 LGBSEA $112 93
1242 AUSLGB $177 91
2510 LGBJFK $232 80
2611 BOSLGB $233 80
I do think the company will keep doing it until we either merge with AS in 3-5yrs, or somehow get a bunch of gates in LAX or SFO. If we walk away from LGB now then SWA will waltz in and dump 40 flights/day up and down the west coast which will further lock us out of anything significant there.
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