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03-07-2017, 08:15 AM
#2921
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Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 252
From the CFO email, our cost advantage is now 9% vs the legacies. Our pilots, FA's, tech ops, and AO are among the lowest paid in the industry. We are more or less a single fleet type. So where did out cost advantage go?
Tech ventures.
Huge management structure.
Management bonuses.
The lodge.
Underpaid staff wrecking the operation.
Any other thoughts on where the cost advantage went?
Tech ventures.
Huge management structure.
Management bonuses.
The lodge.
Underpaid staff wrecking the operation.
Any other thoughts on where the cost advantage went?
I said it before. At 10 years, if I make the jump to a legacy, my cost differential is made up within 2 years! We are so far behind its a joke
03-07-2017, 08:22 AM
#2922
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Joined APC: May 2013
Posts: 2,594
I am sorry BD I thought I sent my post to you for official approval,
guess it didn't make it. Sorry I even said FILL OUT YOUR APPS but the rest could have been construed as being positive and helping recruit. Don't worry I'll do better next time.
The above is sarcasm just like saying you will yell at me in the other post.
guess it didn't make it. Sorry I even said FILL OUT YOUR APPS but the rest could have been construed as being positive and helping recruit. Don't worry I'll do better next time.
The above is sarcasm just like saying you will yell at me in the other post.
03-07-2017, 08:25 AM
#2923
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Joined APC: May 2013
Posts: 2,594
Yeah I brought up these items in the MGMT debrief. It did not go over well. This was the one subject that turned out to be confrontational and I was told I didn't know what I was talking about.
I said it before. At 10 years, if I make the jump to a legacy, my cost differential is made up within 2 years! We are so far behind its a joke
I said it before. At 10 years, if I make the jump to a legacy, my cost differential is made up within 2 years! We are so far behind its a joke
#getmeouttablue
03-07-2017, 08:31 AM
#2924
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Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: 1Durrty5
Posts: 291
I only had time to take a quick look back at the past two system bids, so I can't provide all the details, but in 2015 there were 25 net upgrades and in 2016 there were 3.
03-07-2017, 09:13 AM
#2925
Not A Janitor
Joined APC: Aug 2008
Posts: 814
When do the Airbus deliveries start?
Just curious on the timing of our TA at HA and the perceived 'shortage ' there and how they could be connected? It's a common question, what was the motivation for the company to negotiate now?
Our first three A321 neos are well behind schedule now planned for October/November instead of May/June. Not only did the original bid not get canceled they just put out one with 30 more CA slots. For........ you guessed it, planes that aren't here. But due in 2018.
You wanted VX. Maybe it's HA now? 2.6B market cap.
We have 16 firm and 9 options with already added leases to increase the fleet size just like what happened to the A330.
Anyway, fodder for the brain.
Who knows.
Just curious on the timing of our TA at HA and the perceived 'shortage ' there and how they could be connected? It's a common question, what was the motivation for the company to negotiate now?
Our first three A321 neos are well behind schedule now planned for October/November instead of May/June. Not only did the original bid not get canceled they just put out one with 30 more CA slots. For........ you guessed it, planes that aren't here. But due in 2018.
You wanted VX. Maybe it's HA now? 2.6B market cap.
We have 16 firm and 9 options with already added leases to increase the fleet size just like what happened to the A330.
Anyway, fodder for the brain.
Who knows.
03-07-2017, 09:25 AM
#2926
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Joined APC: Aug 2008
Posts: 503
Now, I'll send my app in to be an airline exec
...more baseball, or softball if you prefer, fields at The Lodge.
03-07-2017, 09:30 AM
#2927
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Joined APC: Nov 2005
Posts: 555
This. I'm in the same boat. I should have bailed two years ago or at least started trying. Maybe if I stay here another 10 years, I can try to hold a line on an Airbus in the left seat, working weekends and every holiday and 10 hr 3 days to SDQ. Maybe. And that's only if we actually start upgrading more than 3 captains every three months.
#getmeouttablue
03-07-2017, 10:30 AM
#2928
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Joined APC: Oct 2012
Position: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
Posts: 2,928
You must not be a student of history when you said you trusted management.
It's all bs and I don't know why you guys thought different. It's all freaking PR.
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Same game different players.
The only person that will ever take care of you is YOU.
03-07-2017, 11:22 AM
#2929
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Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: 1Durrty5
Posts: 291
Here are the totals for the CA side for the same bid from the past two years:
2015
320: 50
190: -5
2016
320: 14
190: 2
Sorry for the confusion.
03-07-2017, 12:32 PM
#2930
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Joined APC: Oct 2012
Position: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
Posts: 2,928
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