Originally Posted by seekingblue

I thought the Chief's were cracking down on that?

Originally Posted by N311JB

Nope. They only care about being on Flica/Wifi in the airplane?

Originally Posted by Std Deviation

As someone that has written extensively about airborne Wi-Fi and has interviewed and maintained journalistic contacts at ViaSat, that's a very easy thing to track and identify. Right down to how much bandwidth a specific device is consuming. Truth be told, if they throw the switch they have the capability to deny specfic devices or reduce bandwidth to specific users via the router.

Originally Posted by Std Deviation

As someone that has written extensively about airborne Wi-Fi and has interviewed and maintained journalistic contacts at ViaSat, that's a very easy thing to track and identify. Right down to how much bandwidth a specific device is consuming. Truth be told, if they throw the switch they have the capability to deny specfic devices or reduce bandwidth to specific users via the router.

Originally Posted by NightOwl

and how exactly would they know to whom each device belongs to ? all they see is a device IP address and maybe device type.

Originally Posted by benzoate

If you want to swap into something have at it. There is a difference between that and volunteering for an RSA/VDA. The pilot group continuously making up for the airlines mistake does affect our bargaining power. These mistakes are know in management and they have stated, many times, the pilots bail them out. Why do we not have a contract or a better PEA? Because pilots do the airlines job for them. Action - consequence - result.

The contract won't come regardless. There is not incentive for them to negotiate a contract. Our bargaining power is not greater than that of many regionals flying outside of CBA for 5 years. The pattern bargaining cycle can easily, and legally, exceed 5 or more years. Don't believe me go ask a negotiator or the ALPA lawyer. There is ZERO incentive for jetblue to provide a market rate contract in a timely manner.

Constantly picking up RSA's and VDA's negatively affects what the union is trying to do. Again, go ask the MEC or NC. Based on the airlines financials it can easily afford $300 an hour but sadly we won't get there because there is no pressure from the pilots.

Please do not mistake this commentary for "burn the house down" but in order to achieve market rate pressure must be applied. if you aren't in tune with this management group or its history then you probably do believe in unicorns and rainbows.

Originally Posted by feltf4

Again, missing the point. No one here is putting on any pressure to stop picking up RSA VDA OR trips in open time pot. Which means everyone does it. There's not carrot. Except for a few people saying don't do this shame on you.

Originally Posted by benzoate

You are correct sir. If you attend a union meeting they will discuss this very topic but they will state, clearly, that the union cannot publicly request pilots not to request RSA and VDA as that could be viewed by the airline as a work action.

They will state that until pilots stop nothing significant will change.