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01-27-2017, 10:02 AM
#2541
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Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 252
All of this and more. If investors were truly concerned about the call results, the stock would have taken a dump. It didn't. Off 3% is within the movement of a typical day. The open was near the 52 week high anyway. Even as I listened to the call I did not sell any shares.
The net income (PROFIT) was $172M for the quarter, $759M for the year. That's the best year ever, and beat the record 2015 by over $80M. Keep in mind that this is NET profit after we paid cash for most of the 2016 aircraft deliveries.
The net income (PROFIT) was $172M for the quarter, $759M for the year. That's the best year ever, and beat the record 2015 by over $80M. Keep in mind that this is NET profit after we paid cash for most of the 2016 aircraft deliveries.
01-27-2017, 03:37 PM
#2543
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Joined APC: Jul 2012
Position: Ablue320
Posts: 200
All airline stocks $h!t the bed today. Yes JB a bit more than others, but that is normal. JB has always had greater daily swing than everyone else. 3 months ago it was $15 and change... not worried. JB is a strong company and can afford a strong CBA. Show us the money!
01-27-2017, 06:05 PM
#2544
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Joined APC: May 2009
Position: Square root of the variance and average of the variation
Posts: 1,602
01-28-2017, 12:36 PM
#2545
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Joined APC: May 2014
Position: A320 CA
Posts: 323
[QUOTE=GuppyPuppy;2289215]For those of you who've considered leaving, but are waiting to see what we get in our first contract...
Think about this. Our largest aircraft is an Airbus 321 that MIGHT have a pay differential with the A320 once a contract is in place. Consider that most pilots senior to you will always be on that plane and will be senior to you until they separate from the company.
Now look at the big 3...most of the pilots senior to you will move on to bigger equipment for the pay. If you CHOOSE to be a captain on the same planes as JB flies your seniority in the left seat could increase higher AND at a faster rate than it would if you were to stay at JB. Plus, you'll get better pay/benefits right out of the box (if you have less than 2-3 years here).
The bottom line is this: which company do you think will always have a better contract? United, Delta, and American or "New York's Gayest Airline?
Don't delay going to a legacy if you're thinking about it.
Good luck to all of us.
American alone has a debt balanced of almost 30 billion where Delta has a debt balance I think just over 6 billion. Do you know how much it will cost American to service this debt. When interest rates turn and they will it will cost American maybe a billion a year.
If and when the economy turns what do you think will happen.
United is just way to easy to see their problems. Just google that one. You don't even need to read the Journal for that.
It's like 99'all over again at the legacys.
I wouldn't go around singing legacys praises unless you are talking about BigD.
Unless you have a crystal ball...nobody really knows what's going to happen. Stick with your own plan.
Think about this. Our largest aircraft is an Airbus 321 that MIGHT have a pay differential with the A320 once a contract is in place. Consider that most pilots senior to you will always be on that plane and will be senior to you until they separate from the company.
Now look at the big 3...most of the pilots senior to you will move on to bigger equipment for the pay. If you CHOOSE to be a captain on the same planes as JB flies your seniority in the left seat could increase higher AND at a faster rate than it would if you were to stay at JB. Plus, you'll get better pay/benefits right out of the box (if you have less than 2-3 years here).
The bottom line is this: which company do you think will always have a better contract? United, Delta, and American or "New York's Gayest Airline?
Don't delay going to a legacy if you're thinking about it.
Good luck to all of us.
American alone has a debt balanced of almost 30 billion where Delta has a debt balance I think just over 6 billion. Do you know how much it will cost American to service this debt. When interest rates turn and they will it will cost American maybe a billion a year.
If and when the economy turns what do you think will happen.
United is just way to easy to see their problems. Just google that one. You don't even need to read the Journal for that.
It's like 99'all over again at the legacys.
I wouldn't go around singing legacys praises unless you are talking about BigD.
Unless you have a crystal ball...nobody really knows what's going to happen. Stick with your own plan.
01-28-2017, 04:36 PM
#2546
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Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: JetRight, JetLeft
Posts: 760
[QUOTE=Papa Bear;2290111]
To each his own.
It is quite true that this is an individual decision, but I do believe that my points need to be considered if one is thinking about leaving.
One thing is certain: The legacy airlines will be retiring pilots at a faster rate than JB for 10+ years.
My crystal ball cracked a long time ago...
I'm staying put. Hopefully that works out!
Gup
For those of you who've considered leaving, but are waiting to see what we get in our first contract...
Think about this. Our largest aircraft is an Airbus 321 that MIGHT have a pay differential with the A320 once a contract is in place. Consider that most pilots senior to you will always be on that plane and will be senior to you until they separate from the company.
Now look at the big 3...most of the pilots senior to you will move on to bigger equipment for the pay. If you CHOOSE to be a captain on the same planes as JB flies your seniority in the left seat could increase higher AND at a faster rate than it would if you were to stay at JB. Plus, you'll get better pay/benefits right out of the box (if you have less than 2-3 years here).
The bottom line is this: which company do you think will always have a better contract? United, Delta, and American or "New York's Gayest Airline?
Don't delay going to a legacy if you're thinking about it.
Good luck to all of us.
American alone has a debt balanced of almost 30 billion where Delta has a debt balance I think just over 6 billion. Do you know how much it will cost American to service this debt. When interest rates turn and they will it will cost American maybe a billion a year.
If and when the economy turns what do you think will happen.
United is just way to easy to see their problems. Just google that one. You don't even need to read the Journal for that.
It's like 99'all over again at the legacys.
I wouldn't go around singing legacys praises unless you are talking about BigD.
Unless you have a crystal ball...nobody really knows what's going to happen. Stick with your own plan.
Think about this. Our largest aircraft is an Airbus 321 that MIGHT have a pay differential with the A320 once a contract is in place. Consider that most pilots senior to you will always be on that plane and will be senior to you until they separate from the company.
Now look at the big 3...most of the pilots senior to you will move on to bigger equipment for the pay. If you CHOOSE to be a captain on the same planes as JB flies your seniority in the left seat could increase higher AND at a faster rate than it would if you were to stay at JB. Plus, you'll get better pay/benefits right out of the box (if you have less than 2-3 years here).
The bottom line is this: which company do you think will always have a better contract? United, Delta, and American or "New York's Gayest Airline?
Don't delay going to a legacy if you're thinking about it.
Good luck to all of us.
American alone has a debt balanced of almost 30 billion where Delta has a debt balance I think just over 6 billion. Do you know how much it will cost American to service this debt. When interest rates turn and they will it will cost American maybe a billion a year.
If and when the economy turns what do you think will happen.
United is just way to easy to see their problems. Just google that one. You don't even need to read the Journal for that.
It's like 99'all over again at the legacys.
I wouldn't go around singing legacys praises unless you are talking about BigD.
Unless you have a crystal ball...nobody really knows what's going to happen. Stick with your own plan.
It is quite true that this is an individual decision, but I do believe that my points need to be considered if one is thinking about leaving.
One thing is certain: The legacy airlines will be retiring pilots at a faster rate than JB for 10+ years.
My crystal ball cracked a long time ago...
I'm staying put. Hopefully that works out!
Gup
01-28-2017, 04:47 PM
#2547
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Joined APC: Nov 2006
Position: Out
Posts: 448
[QUOTE=Papa Bear;2290111]
Spot-on. Being senior at JetBlue makes you a A320 Captain, while at Delta, United or American A320 Captain is not even half way down the seniority list.
For those of you who've considered leaving, but are waiting to see what we get in our first contract...
Think about this. Our largest aircraft is an Airbus 321 that MIGHT have a pay differential with the A320 once a contract is in place. Consider that most pilots senior to you will always be on that plane and will be senior to you until they separate from the company.
Now look at the big 3...most of the pilots senior to you will move on to bigger equipment for the pay. If you CHOOSE to be a captain on the same planes as JB flies your seniority in the left seat could increase higher AND at a faster rate than it would if you were to stay at JB. Plus, you'll get better pay/benefits right out of the box (if you have less than 2-3 years here).
The bottom line is this: which company do you think will always have a better contract? United, Delta, and American or "New York's Gayest Airline?
Don't delay going to a legacy if you're thinking about it.
Good luck to all of us.
American alone has a debt balanced of almost 30 billion where Delta has a debt balance I think just over 6 billion. Do you know how much it will cost American to service this debt. When interest rates turn and they will it will cost American maybe a billion a year.
If and when the economy turns what do you think will happen.
United is just way to easy to see their problems. Just google that one. You don't even need to read the Journal for that.
It's like 99'all over again at the legacys.
I wouldn't go around singing legacys praises unless you are talking about BigD.
Unless you have a crystal ball...nobody really knows what's going to happen. Stick with your own plan.
Think about this. Our largest aircraft is an Airbus 321 that MIGHT have a pay differential with the A320 once a contract is in place. Consider that most pilots senior to you will always be on that plane and will be senior to you until they separate from the company.
Now look at the big 3...most of the pilots senior to you will move on to bigger equipment for the pay. If you CHOOSE to be a captain on the same planes as JB flies your seniority in the left seat could increase higher AND at a faster rate than it would if you were to stay at JB. Plus, you'll get better pay/benefits right out of the box (if you have less than 2-3 years here).
The bottom line is this: which company do you think will always have a better contract? United, Delta, and American or "New York's Gayest Airline?
Don't delay going to a legacy if you're thinking about it.
Good luck to all of us.
American alone has a debt balanced of almost 30 billion where Delta has a debt balance I think just over 6 billion. Do you know how much it will cost American to service this debt. When interest rates turn and they will it will cost American maybe a billion a year.
If and when the economy turns what do you think will happen.
United is just way to easy to see their problems. Just google that one. You don't even need to read the Journal for that.
It's like 99'all over again at the legacys.
I wouldn't go around singing legacys praises unless you are talking about BigD.
Unless you have a crystal ball...nobody really knows what's going to happen. Stick with your own plan.
01-30-2017, 06:12 AM
#2549
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: B6
Posts: 778
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