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12-04-2016, 06:07 AM

#2061

Softpayman

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Originally Posted by BlueJetDork

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I have openly supported 90/69 for over a decade. I have also supported what works for blueJet pilots that were not industry standard i.e. a daily and duty period min on multi day trips. I would support 90/69 even after the NC reports that it is or is not standard in the business these days.

Also is you don't like being replied with "wrong" then don't start a post with 10% "right".

What exactly is 90/69 referring to? 90% for who? 69% for who?

12-04-2016, 06:30 AM

#2062

aewanabe

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Originally Posted by Softpayman

What exactly is 90/69 referring to? 90% for who? 69% for who?

All rates benchmarked from A320 CA: E190 CA/FO pays 90% of the respective A320 seat with the same longevity, and FO scales achieve 69% of the respective CA scale by year 3 or 4 of the scale. Before 2009 FOs never made more than about 60-63 percent of CA pay on the same jet, and E190 pay was nowhere near 90% of A320 pay.

12-04-2016, 08:08 AM

#2063

Std Deviation

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There's a pairing in the 320 JFK FO January bid that has LGA to FLL then a DH to CTG on the 190. Had no idea we did Cartagena in the 190. New?

12-04-2016, 08:27 AM

#2064

BeatNavy

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Originally Posted by Std Deviation

There's a pairing in the 320 JFK FO January bid that has LGA to FLL then a DH to CTG on the 190. Had no idea we did Cartagena in the 190. New?

Started in the last month or so.

12-04-2016, 08:34 AM

#2065

Flyby1206

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Position: 320 CA

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Std Deviation

There's a pairing in the 320 JFK FO January bid that has LGA to FLL then a DH to CTG on the 190. Had no idea we did Cartagena in the 190. New?

Pairing requires a DH A320 crew just to make sure we make it safely. 190 pilots are only given type ratings valid in the Northeast Corridor

12-04-2016, 08:38 AM

#2066

aewanabe

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyby1206

Pairing requires a DH A320 crew just to make sure we make it safely. 190 pilots are only given type ratings valid in the Northeast Corridor

Hey, hey hey, not true

... Us really cool guys had the 121.999 exemption to our types to let us fly the SJU shuffle and go to Texas. But you had to be a "mainline" FO first

12-04-2016, 09:08 AM

#2067

BlueJetDork

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Page 11 of the ALPA contract comparison is what the industry is doing. What I have learned is we are not looking to create new ground in our first CBA and is a 'me too' (what is standard) negotiations.

PilotWhiner seems to laying the ground work to blame jetblue pilots for the current state of the industry and for 'us' not attempting to set new standards with our first CBA.

90/69 was the standard in 2008. What is it now? If it is not 90/69 that is hardly mine or any other Jetblue pilot's fault and for PilotWhiner to start to point the finger at Jetblue pilots is ridiculous.

Last edited by BlueJetDork; 12-04-2016 at 09:21 AM.