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10-13-2016, 03:52 AM
#1371
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Your screen name is appropriate based on the crap you post.
"If they offer this now it means they will or already have taken something else. That's the history of B6"
Such BS. We're not under the DR anymore. They don't get to just shove stuff down our throat. They know what the cost of pilots is now. They see what United, Delta, SW are getting and realize they'll be paying the same soon.
I trust that our NC, and MEC/LEC will not let up on the gas one iota and will deliver us a leading CBA as soon as they possibly can. If there are delays, I suspect and expect that they/we will use all mechanisms available to put pressure on the company to finalize a deal.
Stop acting like a battered wife and grow a pair.
"If they offer this now it means they will or already have taken something else. That's the history of B6"
Such BS. We're not under the DR anymore. They don't get to just shove stuff down our throat. They know what the cost of pilots is now. They see what United, Delta, SW are getting and realize they'll be paying the same soon.
I trust that our NC, and MEC/LEC will not let up on the gas one iota and will deliver us a leading CBA as soon as they possibly can. If there are delays, I suspect and expect that they/we will use all mechanisms available to put pressure on the company to finalize a deal.
Stop acting like a battered wife and grow a pair.
10-13-2016, 04:56 AM
#1373
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Joined APC: Aug 2010
Position: A320 FO
Posts: 98
Objection, speculative and without merit. You guys make it up as you go along with zero substance. Making more money now does not decrease the union's negotiation leverage. Then again, I don't spend all my time posting empty rhetoric on internet forums everyday so what do I know.
10-13-2016, 05:18 AM
#1374
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Joined APC: Feb 2013
Position: CA
Posts: 1,226
Complain when a TA gets floated that doesn't meet your expectations.
10-13-2016, 06:18 AM
#1376
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Joined APC: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,236
Yeah I agree. It will be an overwhelming yes. As it should be. The MEC unanimously voted yes on the LOA.
The argument that this is only a 3% raise is not really accurate. Profit sharing has always been at the board's discretion. They have decided to cap it at 10%. Only in the past two years of the company's entire existence have we exceeded that number. Granted we probably will exceed that next year it is never guaranteed. We could end up with 0%. The 8% base pay raise however is guaranteed.
This obviously is in the company's benefit. No doubt about that. But voting no is only going to benefit the company even more. This will have no bearing on how the MEC and NC go about business.
The argument that this is only a 3% raise is not really accurate. Profit sharing has always been at the board's discretion. They have decided to cap it at 10%. Only in the past two years of the company's entire existence have we exceeded that number. Granted we probably will exceed that next year it is never guaranteed. We could end up with 0%. The 8% base pay raise however is guaranteed.
This obviously is in the company's benefit. No doubt about that. But voting no is only going to benefit the company even more. This will have no bearing on how the MEC and NC go about business.
10-13-2016, 07:51 AM
#1377
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Joined APC: Dec 2008
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Posts: 3,150
This really is an easy decision. Voting no does nothing but shoot out selves in the foot.
Vote yes take the money.
Let the MEC and NC do their jobs. If the final TA/CBA is junk... vote it down... start over. Not ideal but if it must be done... time will tell. Keep yer panties on.
Vote yes take the money.
Let the MEC and NC do their jobs. If the final TA/CBA is junk... vote it down... start over. Not ideal but if it must be done... time will tell. Keep yer panties on.
10-13-2016, 07:58 AM
#1378
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
Position: fifi whisperer
Posts: 1,255
This really is an easy decision. Voting no does nothing but shoot out selves in the foot.
Vote yes take the money.
Let the MEC and NC do their jobs. If the final TA/CBA is junk... vote it down... start over. Not ideal but if it must be done... time will tell. Keep yer panties on.
Vote yes take the money.
Let the MEC and NC do their jobs. If the final TA/CBA is junk... vote it down... start over. Not ideal but if it must be done... time will tell. Keep yer panties on.
This.
10-13-2016, 08:13 AM
#1379
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Joined APC: Oct 2012
Position: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
Posts: 2,929
This really is an easy decision. Voting no does nothing but shoot out selves in the foot.
Vote yes take the money.
Let the MEC and NC do their jobs. If the final TA/CBA is junk... vote it down... start over. Not ideal but if it must be done... time will tell. Keep yer panties on.
Vote yes take the money.
Let the MEC and NC do their jobs. If the final TA/CBA is junk... vote it down... start over. Not ideal but if it must be done... time will tell. Keep yer panties on.
10-13-2016, 08:44 AM
#1380
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Joined APC: Apr 2016
Posts: 26
This really is an easy decision. Voting no does nothing but shoot out selves in the foot.
Vote yes take the money.
Let the MEC and NC do their jobs. If the final TA/CBA is junk... vote it down... start over. Not ideal but if it must be done... time will tell. Keep yer panties on.
Vote yes take the money.
Let the MEC and NC do their jobs. If the final TA/CBA is junk... vote it down... start over. Not ideal but if it must be done... time will tell. Keep yer panties on.
+1. I think the negotiators can keep their eye on the prize as this has zero bearing on the CBA. Bozo's self-professed superior understanding of labor airline history notwithstanding.
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