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Old 08-01-2023, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by avi8orco
JG is on it….
call me a conspiracy person, but I could see them taking a loss in 3q and then going to court saying we took a loss, had to reshuffle our operation. The only way we survive is to merge to get out of the northeast.
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Old 08-01-2023, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by dingo222
call me a conspiracy person, but I could see them taking a loss in 3q and then going to court saying we took a loss, had to reshuffle our operation. The only way we survive is to merge to get out of the northeast.
^^^ Ding ding ding!
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Old 08-01-2023, 01:55 PM
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You’ve always been a “what are you willing to give up for that” kind of guy. JetBlue loves guys like you who aren’t willing to fight for everything, but rather just settle at the bottom. Btw, how’s all that softpay working out for you these days? Lol
Exactly. Right now the "geniuses" will say "why fight for profit sharing, the company isn't even profitable". And in the coming years when profits are up they'll say "we can't get profit sharing now, the company is profitable and it will cost them too much, they'll never give it to us".

For once we need to be thinking and planning years ahead of yesterday's paycheck. JCBA is the time, hard line in the sand. It's now INDUSTRY STANDARD. No excuses, from management or fellow PILOTS.
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Old 08-01-2023, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Exactly. Right now the "geniuses" will say "why fight for profit sharing, the company isn't even profitable". And in the coming years when profits are up they'll say "we can't get profit sharing now, the company is profitable and it will cost them too much, they'll never give it to us".

For once we need to be thinking and planning years ahead of yesterday's paycheck. JCBA is the time, hard line in the sand. It's now INDUSTRY STANDARD. No excuses, from management or fellow PILOTS.
Where is the F@@KING LIKE button?!!!!!
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Old 08-01-2023, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Exactly. Right now the "geniuses" will say "why fight for profit sharing, the company isn't even profitable". And in the coming years when profits are up they'll say "we can't get profit sharing now, the company is profitable and it will cost them too much, they'll never give it to us".

For once we need to be thinking and planning years ahead of yesterday's paycheck. JCBA is the time, hard line in the sand. It's now INDUSTRY STANDARD. No excuses, from management or fellow PILOTS.
100% all this ☝🏻
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Old 08-01-2023, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Exactly. Right now the "geniuses" will say "why fight for profit sharing, the company isn't even profitable". And in the coming years when profits are up they'll say "we can't get profit sharing now, the company is profitable and it will cost them too much, they'll never give it to us".

For once we need to be thinking and planning years ahead of yesterday's paycheck. JCBA is the time, hard line in the sand. It's now INDUSTRY STANDARD. No excuses, from management or fellow PILOTS.
Somebody needs to convince the Spirit block of this. I have seen a good number of them willing to toss away all other improvements as long as they "kEeP 0uR 1NdusTrY LeaDiNG Qol"
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Old 08-01-2023, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Tornado875
Somebody needs to convince the Spirit block of this. I have seen a good number of them willing to toss away all other improvements as long as they "kEeP 0uR 1NdusTrY LeaDiNG Qol"
Wrong. We want legacy pay and profit sharing without giving up our work rules. You’re the one who wants us to give things up that you have no experience with. I’ve talked to many jetblue folks, most great people who see that we can have an amazing JCBA with the best of both worlds. Then there’s you who just likes to talk ish.
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Old 08-01-2023, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Crjdeuce
Wrong. We want legacy pay and profit sharing without giving up our work rules. You’re the one who wants us to give things up that you have no experience with. I’ve talked to many jetblue folks, most great people who see that we can have an amazing JCBA with the best of both worlds. Then there’s you who just likes to talk ish.
I could go back and gather quotes from your side of APC of guys who are happy with less than standard pay and other substandard language as long as they keep their schedule manipulation, but that would be a waste of both our our time.
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Old 08-01-2023, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Crjdeuce
Wrong. We want legacy pay and profit sharing without giving up our work rules. You’re the one who wants us to give things up that you have no experience with. I’ve talked to many jetblue folks, most great people who see that we can have an amazing JCBA with the best of both worlds. Then there’s you who just likes to talk ish.
This ^^^^

Theres 0 reason we can’t be one of the highest paid airbus pilots AND keep the QOL items that make any legacy pilot wet. With strong language and good QOL items/schedule manipulation, imagine how much we can get paid. Add a PS check on top and that’ll allow us to compete with legacy carriers for talent.

This place can be something special. Why match the legacies when we can do it better? Food for thought.
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Old 08-01-2023, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Tornado875
I could go back and gather quotes from your side of APC of guys who are happy with less than standard pay and other substandard language as long as they keep their schedule manipulation, but that would be a waste of both our our time.
As I could go back and gather quotes of JB guys who were perfectly willing to give up DTZ and 75% green days who subsequently admitted they didn’t understand any of those things but that too would be a waste of time. So I guess the real question is do you want to keep this a fight between “legacy” and “acquired” JB pilots fir the next couple decades or would you rather forget all that and all get together behind a truly awesome JCBA?

Because there is a PILOT SHORTAGE and management NEEDS the JCBA and can’t afford to stall negotiations (as per usual) so IF NOT NOW, WHEN?
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