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There at least 100+ pilots driving in from PA/NJ who all would have reduced drive times by 30-60 minutes and save literally well over $1000 on bridge tolls a year.
There are also a handful of pilots who have better commute options from their home on United into EWR.
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2019
Posts: 1,191
There was talk by Scott L (network/revenue/planning guy) pre-pandemic of possibly opening a new focus city in 3-5 years, but none of those cities. I’m sure covid has affected that though and haven’t heard anything else about it in a long time. Nothing I see points to a new focus city or crew base, at least in the short term. Focus seems to be on growing existing cities (NYC/BOS first for the NEA, then likely LAX, with some south Florida mixed in, then lastly MCO).
EWR possibly could be a crew base—but they will likely bargain for it to be included as a JFK co-base in the next section 6 first…or, if they renegotiate LOA13 based on the arbitration results, maybe try then too. I just don’t see them opening it right now as a separate base without a fight to get it included in JFK. LAS and RDU may have enough flights/overnights to justify a base in the next 5 years, but I’m not holding my breath for either. I’ve heard SFO tossed around, but I think if that ever happens it’d be a long way off (5-10 years?). Then there’s the rumor of AUS or BNA I’ve heard a few times, but I don’t see either happening anytime soon. So my answer: I’m not planning on any new crew bases in the next 5 years, outside of EWR being added as a co-base if the pilot group gives it away, or possibly as a new base altogether.
Regarding an AA merger rumor: there is always a B6 merger rumor. AA is the rumor du jour because of the NEA. I just don’t see the DOJ allowing a AA+B6 merger, unless possibly AA shrank significantly and went thru a bankruptcy first. Not impossible, but also not likely imo. I think AA/B6 each kind of has the best of both worlds for themselves as it stands with the NEA. A merger would cause more divestiture and large cost for integration, with a decade+ of merger related issues (look no further than current AA with their HP/L-US/L-AA integration). AA & B6 are already getting a lot of the benefit of a merger (network integration and FF base) without incurring the associated costs and having to streamline / convert / integrate products. The only B6 merger I see as possible is with Alaska…but even that doesn’t seem likely, at least not presently. I guess a merger with NK/F9 (or even breeze down the road) could be possible as well…but I see those as even less likely.
EWR possibly could be a crew base—but they will likely bargain for it to be included as a JFK co-base in the next section 6 first…or, if they renegotiate LOA13 based on the arbitration results, maybe try then too. I just don’t see them opening it right now as a separate base without a fight to get it included in JFK. LAS and RDU may have enough flights/overnights to justify a base in the next 5 years, but I’m not holding my breath for either. I’ve heard SFO tossed around, but I think if that ever happens it’d be a long way off (5-10 years?). Then there’s the rumor of AUS or BNA I’ve heard a few times, but I don’t see either happening anytime soon. So my answer: I’m not planning on any new crew bases in the next 5 years, outside of EWR being added as a co-base if the pilot group gives it away, or possibly as a new base altogether.
Regarding an AA merger rumor: there is always a B6 merger rumor. AA is the rumor du jour because of the NEA. I just don’t see the DOJ allowing a AA+B6 merger, unless possibly AA shrank significantly and went thru a bankruptcy first. Not impossible, but also not likely imo. I think AA/B6 each kind of has the best of both worlds for themselves as it stands with the NEA. A merger would cause more divestiture and large cost for integration, with a decade+ of merger related issues (look no further than current AA with their HP/L-US/L-AA integration). AA & B6 are already getting a lot of the benefit of a merger (network integration and FF base) without incurring the associated costs and having to streamline / convert / integrate products. The only B6 merger I see as possible is with Alaska…but even that doesn’t seem likely, at least not presently. I guess a merger with NK/F9 (or even breeze down the road) could be possible as well…but I see those as even less likely.
Covfefe
Joined APC: Jun 2015
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Ha, which is exactly why I don’t think it will happen. Just like the missed AUS opportunity back in the day. I’m sure DL/AA/WN/Breeze will have BNA covered by the time B6 starts trying to build it up. But hey, at least we will take New Yorkers and Bostonians to BNA once a day on an E190. Maybe 2x a day with envoy or republic’s help
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Ha, which is exactly why I don’t think it will happen. Just like the missed AUS opportunity back in the day. I’m sure DL/AA/WN/Breeze will have BNA covered by the time B6 starts trying to build it up. But hey, at least we will take New Yorkers and Bostonians to BNA once a day on an E190. Maybe 2x a day with envoy or republic’s help
I’m assuming everyone walked in, exchanged pleasantries, then the company presented exhibit A (our contract), then they proceeded to rip it up said contract and walk out. The union then concurred and asked for a total revamp of the flica color scheme. Thus completing arbitration.
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
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I want a EWR co-base, and I know a lot of other pilots would also welcome it.
There at least 100+ pilots driving in from PA/NJ who all would have reduced drive times by 30-60 minutes and save literally well over $1000 on bridge tolls a year.
There are also a handful of pilots who have better commute options from their home on United into EWR.
There at least 100+ pilots driving in from PA/NJ who all would have reduced drive times by 30-60 minutes and save literally well over $1000 on bridge tolls a year.
There are also a handful of pilots who have better commute options from their home on United into EWR.
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,920
I’m assuming everyone walked in, exchanged pleasantries, then the company presented exhibit A (our contract), then they proceeded to rip it up said contract and walk out. The union then concurred and asked for a total revamp of the flica color scheme. Thus completing arbitration.
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