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Old 05-09-2021, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Softpayman
Who wants to work after having the last year off?
Sounds like the problems the restaurants in my part of DFW have. People would rather stay home and be given more money from the federal government, than go back to work and get paid what they made, pre-Covid.
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Old 05-09-2021, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by feltf4
Apparently no one works in LAX? According to the amount of June opentime.
I wonder if it was due to all the 5 day trips? I wonder if it was due to trips finishing at 0020- 0040 and not getting the daily rig? The Most junior CA has a line next month ( if only 13 years was good enough)
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Old 05-10-2021, 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by feltf4
Apparently no one works in LAX? According to the amount of June opentime.
Fellow LAX Pilots,

The June pairing set brings significant block hour increases and flights to our base. While we welcome the beginning of a return to normalcy, it is clear that this pairing set includes a significantly heavier redeye load and includes new departure times that transit the entire WOCL. Your LEC is concerned that this could indicate a return to the pre-COVID scheduling practices that have proven time and again to be problematic for LAX pilots on multiple levels.

A few things to keep in mind here. First, while we see serious flaws in the construction of many of these pairings, the pairing set has been verified as contractually compliant. Second, there is no reason to expect this trend to go away as this is the third time since October 2018 that we’ve seen a foray into pairings in the WOCL, multiple WOCL flights, and the dangerous “circadian flips” that we have all dealt with on the west coast for too long. Finally, as distressing as it is to see the company repeatedly traffic in these fatigue-inducing schedules that are so debilitating and contrary your physical and mental well-being, ALPA volunteers remain ever-vigilant, and will utilize all the tools we have to combat these unsound scheduling practices. We all know the scientifically-proven facts: acute fatigue can be easily induced, is cumulative, and can become a chronic condition which negatively impacts your mental health and quality of life.

We recommend that anytime fatigue is an issue, each pilot should make a self-evaluation. After all, we are required to certify that we are fit for duty prior to every leg. Documentation of fatigue events, whether a callout event or diagnosed in flight, is a vital tool for your System Scheduling committee to help identify and adjust pairings that create fatigue issues. We cannot stress this too highly.
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Old 05-10-2021, 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by capt707
Fellow LAX Pilots,

The June pairing set brings significant block hour increases and flights to our base. While we welcome the beginning of a return to normalcy, it is clear that this pairing set includes a significantly heavier redeye load and includes new departure times that transit the entire WOCL. Your LEC is concerned that this could indicate a return to the pre-COVID scheduling practices that have proven time and again to be problematic for LAX pilots on multiple levels.

A few things to keep in mind here. First, while we see serious flaws in the construction of many of these pairings, the pairing set has been verified as contractually compliant. Second, there is no reason to expect this trend to go away as this is the third time since October 2018 that we’ve seen a foray into pairings in the WOCL, multiple WOCL flights, and the dangerous “circadian flips” that we have all dealt with on the west coast for too long. Finally, as distressing as it is to see the company repeatedly traffic in these fatigue-inducing schedules that are so debilitating and contrary your physical and mental well-being, ALPA volunteers remain ever-vigilant, and will utilize all the tools we have to combat these unsound scheduling practices. We all know the scientifically-proven facts: acute fatigue can be easily induced, is cumulative, and can become a chronic condition which negatively impacts your mental health and quality of life.

We recommend that anytime fatigue is an issue, each pilot should make a self-evaluation. After all, we are required to certify that we are fit for duty prior to every leg. Documentation of fatigue events, whether a callout event or diagnosed in flight, is a vital tool for your System Scheduling committee to help identify and adjust pairings that create fatigue issues. We cannot stress this too highly.
Without a doubt those trips in open time are terrible. I wouldn’t want to have a schedule full of those trips. Just thought it was odd that there was so many trips. I don’t think I have seen that many on the west coast before.
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Old 05-10-2021, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by TransWorld
Sounds like the problems the restaurants in my part of DFW have. People would rather stay home and be given more money from the federal government, than go back to work and get paid what they made, pre-Covid.
In DFW also. Many of the restaurants and bars are closed for lunch entirely now. No staff. How am I supposed to day drink ? 🤣
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Old 05-10-2021, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by TransWorld
Sounds like the problems the restaurants in my part of DFW have. People would rather stay home and be given more money from the federal government, than go back to work and get paid what they made, pre-Covid.
Would you be willing to give up an hour of your time and labor ($7.25/hr) and not even be able to afford a single piece of 2x4 ($8.50) at the end of it?

Sounds like supply and demand at work. restraunts need to raise the pay.
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Old 05-10-2021, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by MainlineFlyer
Would you be willing to give up an hour of your time and labor ($7.25/hr) and not even be able to afford a single piece of 2x4 ($8.50) at the end of it?

Sounds like supply and demand at work. restraunts need to raise the pay.
When I was 16 working a min-wage job I didn’t need to buy much lumber. And why would one work that job if the government would pay them the same to sit home?
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Old 05-10-2021, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by MainlineFlyer
Would you be willing to give up an hour of your time and labor ($7.25/hr) and not even be able to afford a single piece of 2x4 ($8.50) at the end of it?

Sounds like supply and demand at work. restraunts need to raise the pay.
It’s not supply and demand. The government is interfering in the free market. Same is happening with the stock market and housing prices. The fed is creating inflation and an incentive not to work.
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Old 05-10-2021, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by panpanpan
It’s not supply and demand. The government is interfering in the free market. Same is happening with the stock market and housing prices. The fed is creating inflation and an incentive not to work.
They’re creating dependency. Don’t worry, Uncle Sugar will take care of you. Just do what we say.
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Old 05-10-2021, 03:55 PM
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“A recent Bank of America analyst note estimated that 4.6 million workers exited the labor force during the pandemic – and only half are expected to rejoin by the end of the year. For workers earning less than $32,000 annually, it's more financially lucrative to collect government aid, the analyst note said.”


32k a year is a government problem!


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