Curtaindriver

not a chance, it’s been very nice having my life back.

pilotpayne

Well there you go “yes” voters.

Bluedriver

Thanks for weighing in, your opinion is valued because of your background and history.

Break.

A certain Valentine's Day Chairman's Message was shameful. I have never seen an internal sales job like this from a company or union.

Break.

The basic NEA is moving forward with or without LOA 13. Some JB pilots are very excited about growth from the NEA, and are willing to give up important protections, for nearly nothing in return. JB is the "low cost provider" today, but AA will likely Chapter 11 restructure in the next few years and they will shed debt, gut contracts and emerge as lean and mean and want their toys in the NE back. The NEA is a two way street... Traffic may be heading in JB's direction today but there are roundabouts and potential direction changes potentially on the horizon.

Since the bulk of the NEA will move forward anyway, I see no reason to further gut JB pilot's Focus City protections, ESPECIALLY for such little financial reward.

Break.

As for section 6 being near, it may start in a year, but it won't conclude for 4-5 years and the more things you add to the "must have" list, especially things Blue doesn't want to give, the longer they will delay, or make "non-starter" like they did the last time with profit sharing. And you can't give away this scope, for nothing, and then expect to get it back in the next Section 6. IF they would ever agree to that, they would make you pay for it with something else from the contract. So it makes no sense to GIVE it away now only to pay to get it back. That's the worst strategery I've ever heard. Same with delaying the demand for profit sharing. The company wants to delay profit sharing talks until Section 6, because they want YOU to pay for your own profit sharing by negotiating away something else in the contract, as well as push it out 4-5 years.

They are playing chess and expecting you to play checkers, don't fall for the trick.

PSU Flyer

I hope everyone voting realizes that the ONE actual pilot benefit of the TA, the 2% pay raise NEXT YEAR, is basically being paid for by the PILOTS with the TLV relief this year.

SaintNick

flics waiting room not enough for you?!?!

PSU Flyer

“You can give yourself a raise by flying more.”

SaintNick

did someone actually say that? I got into this profession to get paid more by working Less.

say again

Seriously. It's an easy NO vote for me.

copy

Yes. Forgot who it was. It was quite a few years ago. The BP brain trust would know.

Boomer

Exactly. If we approve LOA 13, we are giving the company one more shell to play their CBA shell game with. ASMs will become currency in negotiations.

There are already too many shells in their shell game - pay, work rules, profit sharing, PTO, medical, retirement... every time you get an improvement in one area you pay for it from another area. There’s only one shell with a treat under it, but they want you to think all the shells have treats under them. They always move the shells faster than we can follow with our eyes.

Now we introduce a new shell - ASMs. The company will have one more item to increase or reduce when we want to fund something in the next CBA. The more variables, the tougher to get a good contract.

“Want profit sharing? Give away some ASMs.”

“Want to tighten up our 65% of Caribbean ASMs? Give up some pay.”

And the one nobody mentioned yet... “Want to get 10% of London ASMs? What are you willing to give up for that?”

Too many variables.