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Old 02-12-2021, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by copy
Last I heard he was a no. Hopefully he lurks here and will chime in. I’ve seen him post a little before here. Maybe once during the TA/CBA.

That’s good to hear. I really wouldn’t mind hearing from him.


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Old 02-12-2021, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
That’s good to hear. I really wouldn’t mind hearing from him.


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I certainly don’t want to speak for him, so hopefully he can chime in about it. Just what I heard. Either way, I value his opinion and insight, as I did for the TA/CBA, despite not agreeing with everything then. I think he’s one of the smartest and level headed guys to speak with about it.
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Old 02-13-2021, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
Yes.

lets waste resources negotiating to get back what we have now.
NOT the point. Was specifically replying to a comment about it being a ling term 5 year deal that we couldn't do anything about when in a year we could. Wasn't saying anything about what we are or aren't giving up or wasn't saying we should or shouldn't vote it down. Snark.
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Old 02-13-2021, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by todd1200
Anyone volunteering for that vacated NC position?
I thought about it since I've been there before. Then remembered what a lousy job it is. There is NO win in it. No matter what you do, the members crap on you. So no...
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Old 02-13-2021, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Docskoli
I thought about it since I've been there before. Then remembered what a lousy job it is. There is NO win in it. No matter what you do, the members crap on you. So no...
No offense Dok, but you’re not exactly what we’re looking for to represent us. Don’t hand me a sh!t sandwich and tell me how good it is. I’ve had enough of inept representation.
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Old 02-13-2021, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Docskoli
NOT the point. Was specifically replying to a comment about it being a ling term 5 year deal that we couldn't do anything about when in a year we could. Wasn't saying anything about what we are or aren't giving up or wasn't saying we should or shouldn't vote it down. Snark.

No that is the point. So what do you want us to do in a year? Negotiations for something we had but decided to give up? How long do you think that would take especially if it’s lucrative to the company.

So now we gave up something we had.

In a year we could start negotiations to get back what we had and the company will say sure but what will you give us to get back what you already had.

Honestly what do you think we could do about it in a year?
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Old 02-13-2021, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Docskoli
I thought about it since I've been there before. Then remembered what a lousy job it is. There is NO win in it. No matter what you do, the members crap on you. So no...

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Old 02-13-2021, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
No that is the point. So what do you want us to do in a year? Negotiations for something we had but decided to give up? How long do you thank that would take especially if it’s lucrative to the company.

So now we gave up something we had.

In a year we could start negotiations to get back what we had and the company will say sure but what will you give us to get back what you already had.

Honestly what do you think we could do about it in a year?
Especially since negotiations take 3-4-5 years to conclude because some in the group will preach calm and appeasement for years...

So, to Dok, there is NOTHING that could be done about this in a year... Nothing.

Payne's right.
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Old 02-14-2021, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by copy
I certainly don’t want to speak for him, so hopefully he can chime in about it. Just what I heard. Either way, I value his opinion and insight, as I did for the TA/CBA, despite not agreeing with everything then. I think he’s one of the smartest and level headed guys to speak with about it.

100% No vote
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Old 02-14-2021, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Curtaindriver
100% No vote
Thanks. Any chance of you filling the NC vacancy?
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