JetBlue Latest and Greatest
01-30-2021, 10:49 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: B6
Posts: 1,047
Thats not what we are voting on and they already got that in LOA 12. They will just have Joint venture restrictions of F7 and F8 that they apparently need and want but won't have....Whats wrong with that?
01-30-2021, 11:55 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2005
Posts: 202
My buddy let me see this and just the length alone makes it a no. Living under scope rape for many years still leaves me scratching the noggin. Good luck.
01-30-2021, 01:16 PM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: Hack pilot
Posts: 216
This TA needs to be DOA, and the last few soft sell job emails from our MEC aren’t swaying my vote.
ALPA settled for an extremely bad deal based off threats of furloughs and then sent out the garbage for the pilots to vote on. I mean come on, how many more times is it going to take for us to not buy into the “we don’t anticipate them doing this,” or they “can” or “may.” Give me a break, weak language and duration is enough for me to not even consider this garbage. ALPA once again selling us down stream.
This isn’t about hoping they come back with a better offer, it’s about keeping our scope and what’s left of our CBA intact.
ALPA settled for an extremely bad deal based off threats of furloughs and then sent out the garbage for the pilots to vote on. I mean come on, how many more times is it going to take for us to not buy into the “we don’t anticipate them doing this,” or they “can” or “may.” Give me a break, weak language and duration is enough for me to not even consider this garbage. ALPA once again selling us down stream.
This isn’t about hoping they come back with a better offer, it’s about keeping our scope and what’s left of our CBA intact.
Last edited by stanherman; 01-30-2021 at 01:30 PM.
01-30-2021, 04:02 PM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2015
Posts: 917
01-30-2021, 05:53 PM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: blueJet
Posts: 4,534
A new ALPA Podcast is out, Part 1 of 2, on LOA 13 and job protections.
Not much new information, but at the 12 minute mark they explain why LOA 12 was insufficient relief and why we’re looking at LOA 13. Apparently the company thought relief on 1.F.1 and 1.F.2 would cover the AA deal. As the plan materialized after LOA 12, ALPA discovered it would also violate 1.F.7 and 1.F.8. Rather than let it slide, the MEC decided to enforce our contract. LOA 13 is the result.
Whether the company did this unknowingly, or if it was a sloppy attempt at a land grab, was not discussed.
Not much new information, but at the 12 minute mark they explain why LOA 12 was insufficient relief and why we’re looking at LOA 13. Apparently the company thought relief on 1.F.1 and 1.F.2 would cover the AA deal. As the plan materialized after LOA 12, ALPA discovered it would also violate 1.F.7 and 1.F.8. Rather than let it slide, the MEC decided to enforce our contract. LOA 13 is the result.
Whether the company did this unknowingly, or if it was a sloppy attempt at a land grab, was not discussed.
01-30-2021, 06:09 PM
Layover Master
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Position: Seated
Posts: 4,320
A new ALPA Podcast is out, Part 1 of 2, on LOA 13 and job protections.
Not much new information, but at the 12 minute mark they explain why LOA 12 was insufficient relief and why we’re looking at LOA 13. Apparently the company thought relief on 1.F.1 and 1.F.2 would cover the AA deal. As the plan materialized after LOA 12, ALPA discovered it would also violate 1.F.7 and 1.F.8. Rather than let it slide, the MEC decided to enforce our contract. LOA 13 is the result.
Whether the company did this unknowingly, or if it was a sloppy attempt at a land grab, was not discussed.
Not much new information, but at the 12 minute mark they explain why LOA 12 was insufficient relief and why we’re looking at LOA 13. Apparently the company thought relief on 1.F.1 and 1.F.2 would cover the AA deal. As the plan materialized after LOA 12, ALPA discovered it would also violate 1.F.7 and 1.F.8. Rather than let it slide, the MEC decided to enforce our contract. LOA 13 is the result.
Whether the company did this unknowingly, or if it was a sloppy attempt at a land grab, was not discussed.
01-30-2021, 07:15 PM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2019
Posts: 1,191
A new ALPA Podcast is out, Part 1 of 2, on LOA 13 and job protections.
Not much new information, but at the 12 minute mark they explain why LOA 12 was insufficient relief and why we’re looking at LOA 13. Apparently the company thought relief on 1.F.1 and 1.F.2 would cover the AA deal. As the plan materialized after LOA 12, ALPA discovered it would also violate 1.F.7 and 1.F.8. Rather than let it slide, the MEC decided to enforce our contract. LOA 13 is the result.
Whether the company did this unknowingly, or if it was a sloppy attempt at a land grab, was not discussed.
Not much new information, but at the 12 minute mark they explain why LOA 12 was insufficient relief and why we’re looking at LOA 13. Apparently the company thought relief on 1.F.1 and 1.F.2 would cover the AA deal. As the plan materialized after LOA 12, ALPA discovered it would also violate 1.F.7 and 1.F.8. Rather than let it slide, the MEC decided to enforce our contract. LOA 13 is the result.
Whether the company did this unknowingly, or if it was a sloppy attempt at a land grab, was not discussed.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
