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12-17-2020, 04:43 PM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2019
Posts: 1,005
They could easily just say, ‘you know what, let’s just clip 1000 pilots off the list and go forward a much smaller company.’ They’ll work their way back into the black with or without our help. Thankfully we have a Union that is trying to save jobs AND preserve our CBA.
Last edited by Roy Biggins; 12-17-2020 at 05:27 PM.
12-17-2020, 04:47 PM
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2019
Posts: 22
Maybe you’re are being sarcastic but you are correct. But most of the profit sharing deals at our competitors came from bankruptcy or were carried over from contracts negotiated in bad times where they weren’t profitable. It costs nothing to give away nothing and gave the company some negotiating capital at the time. So the idea is to leverage their need for CBA relief to get profit sharing. It honestly doesn’t seem like we are giving up much and a deal that gives us more block hours and a competitive edge in places that were hard to break into before everyone got slaughtered benefits us all. Some may disagree. Scope is very important though, and it’s the reason why AA can codeshare and furlough at the same time. We don’t want to go down that road.
12-17-2020, 05:15 PM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2020
Posts: 537
Exactly. It costs the company absolutely nothing until profits start coming back in. Basically an I owe you for giving them what they want. We couldn’t get PS when the company was printing money. They unilaterally changed it to ensure we don’t ever see it again. But now we can’t get it when we are bleeding money and it costs them nothing? Historically, good PS formulas were agreed to in bad times when it didn’t cost the company anything. If there was ever an opportunity for us to get it, it’s now, when the company wants something we control (AA CBA relief) that will cost them nothing, in order to get something we want. But, just like 3 years ago, we asked, they said no.
12-17-2020, 08:19 PM
Line Holder
Joined APC: May 2014
Posts: 42
When I first looked at the bullet points I thought this might be a good deal. The more I looked at them and dug into what they mean the less I liked it. Disagree with me if you want, especially after the final language comes out but after taking some time to digest it this is how I see it.
1) 6, 9, 12, 24 month Extended Incentive Lines at 55 hours. Not enough credit for me to care about it. If it was 65 hours I'd be all over it, maybe even 63.
2) VPLOA. Don't qualify, don't care.
3) May 1st 2022 2% pay raise. This feels like a 1 year contract extension for a 2% pay raise. Obviously ALPA is going to wait until Jetblue is profitable to get our new CBA, at which point Jetblue will stall as long as they can. Their stalling justification will be based off our last pay raise. It's almost like it happened before when we got a pay raise in exchange for "agreeing" to give up PS. The 2% COLA is too expensive for me in the long run.
4) FLICA waiting room that may or may not be added through MEMRAT later. It's a nothing burger and I don't really care about it anyway.
5) Relief from Targeted Line Value (TLV) through December 31, 2021 + Note: Average Line Value (ALV) and minimum guarantee provisions of LOA 12 are not extended. This is where it all falls apart for me. It's no wonder they split them up. They should have just put an * with the note in tiny fine print at the bottom. Separate they seem OK. Reserve is going back to 75 hours. Great! I read through the entire section on this in LOA 12 to get a full understanding of what this meant. Line holders can fly any amount set by the company in the TLV and get paid 70 hours just like now. The difference is the ALV. Anything you fly over TLV just goes toward your MLV.
Example:
TLV is 55 hours for the month. You experience several delays and a diversion during the month causing you to over block 5 hours. A nice 12 hour 2 day drops into open time and for some reason the usual suspects don't pick it up so you grab it. Under LOA 12 you would get paid 87 hours. Under this new AIP you would get paid 72 hours. In this example you are working 15 hours for free before you can make more then the 70 hours MLV. How much free work you have to do before you can break MLV will be set by the company on a month to month basis per category and class.
The reserves and line holders have a symbiotic relationship. Line holders want to make as much as possible so they pick up all the open time. Reserves don't want to fly so they sit home and collect 70 hours between doing 3 takeoffs and landings in the sim every 3 months. Everybody wins. This AIP would take away line holders incentive to do any extra flying. So you end up with every reserve flying close to 75 hours per month and line holders flying TLV.
So since there is really no carrot in this AIP then there must be a stick. Which brings us to point 6. The veiled threat of furlough.
6) No furlough period May 1, 2021, through May 1, 2022 unless they need to furlough October 1st, 2021. It may as well be May 2032 because Jetblue has no intention of furloughing. The vaccine is out, approved and being injected into peoples arms as I type this. Another vaccine will probably be approved tomorrow. If that's not enough J&J should have one approved next week. People can't wait to visit friends and relatives. Everyone in this country needs a vacation after this year. The flood gates are about to open which is why Jetblue is trying to lock something in quick. The Flight Attendants didn't fall for it but maybe the pilots will. They already announced to all the other groups no furlough. You think they are going to furlough pilots and keep everyone else on board with no flights to service? Keep in mind the expense involved in a furlough, displace and retrain. That ship sailed in October. It's not gonna happen May 1st.
The tricky thing about this AIP is it doesn't look like concessions. The pay rates stay the same. The MLV goes back to 75 hours for reserves. The simple fact is this AIP is going to save the company a lot of money and they are saving that money by not paying it to the pilots. This job has always been a balancing act between making money and quality of life. For some this AIP will reduce their ability to make money and for others it will reduce their QOL. The flying will be spread evenly. The company will set your pay/QOL fulcrum where they want it, not where you need it.
1) 6, 9, 12, 24 month Extended Incentive Lines at 55 hours. Not enough credit for me to care about it. If it was 65 hours I'd be all over it, maybe even 63.
2) VPLOA. Don't qualify, don't care.
3) May 1st 2022 2% pay raise. This feels like a 1 year contract extension for a 2% pay raise. Obviously ALPA is going to wait until Jetblue is profitable to get our new CBA, at which point Jetblue will stall as long as they can. Their stalling justification will be based off our last pay raise. It's almost like it happened before when we got a pay raise in exchange for "agreeing" to give up PS. The 2% COLA is too expensive for me in the long run.
4) FLICA waiting room that may or may not be added through MEMRAT later. It's a nothing burger and I don't really care about it anyway.
5) Relief from Targeted Line Value (TLV) through December 31, 2021 + Note: Average Line Value (ALV) and minimum guarantee provisions of LOA 12 are not extended. This is where it all falls apart for me. It's no wonder they split them up. They should have just put an * with the note in tiny fine print at the bottom. Separate they seem OK. Reserve is going back to 75 hours. Great! I read through the entire section on this in LOA 12 to get a full understanding of what this meant. Line holders can fly any amount set by the company in the TLV and get paid 70 hours just like now. The difference is the ALV. Anything you fly over TLV just goes toward your MLV.
Example:
TLV is 55 hours for the month. You experience several delays and a diversion during the month causing you to over block 5 hours. A nice 12 hour 2 day drops into open time and for some reason the usual suspects don't pick it up so you grab it. Under LOA 12 you would get paid 87 hours. Under this new AIP you would get paid 72 hours. In this example you are working 15 hours for free before you can make more then the 70 hours MLV. How much free work you have to do before you can break MLV will be set by the company on a month to month basis per category and class.
The reserves and line holders have a symbiotic relationship. Line holders want to make as much as possible so they pick up all the open time. Reserves don't want to fly so they sit home and collect 70 hours between doing 3 takeoffs and landings in the sim every 3 months. Everybody wins. This AIP would take away line holders incentive to do any extra flying. So you end up with every reserve flying close to 75 hours per month and line holders flying TLV.
So since there is really no carrot in this AIP then there must be a stick. Which brings us to point 6. The veiled threat of furlough.
6) No furlough period May 1, 2021, through May 1, 2022 unless they need to furlough October 1st, 2021. It may as well be May 2032 because Jetblue has no intention of furloughing. The vaccine is out, approved and being injected into peoples arms as I type this. Another vaccine will probably be approved tomorrow. If that's not enough J&J should have one approved next week. People can't wait to visit friends and relatives. Everyone in this country needs a vacation after this year. The flood gates are about to open which is why Jetblue is trying to lock something in quick. The Flight Attendants didn't fall for it but maybe the pilots will. They already announced to all the other groups no furlough. You think they are going to furlough pilots and keep everyone else on board with no flights to service? Keep in mind the expense involved in a furlough, displace and retrain. That ship sailed in October. It's not gonna happen May 1st.
The tricky thing about this AIP is it doesn't look like concessions. The pay rates stay the same. The MLV goes back to 75 hours for reserves. The simple fact is this AIP is going to save the company a lot of money and they are saving that money by not paying it to the pilots. This job has always been a balancing act between making money and quality of life. For some this AIP will reduce their ability to make money and for others it will reduce their QOL. The flying will be spread evenly. The company will set your pay/QOL fulcrum where they want it, not where you need it.
12-17-2020, 08:29 PM
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,920
Wounded Duck,
And how do you KNOW that if you pick up a 15 hour trip as a line holder you won't get paid 15 additional hours? Seems like you are reading tea leaves and coming to a conclusion that might very well be incorrect.
I doubt VERY much the union would vote unanimously to approve an agreement that cuts lineholders ability to get paid from open time.
I think you need to wait for language and Q&A before you make such sweeping assumptions.
And I do not see a 2022 COLA increase as a contract extension. The contract becomes amendable on the same date as previously, and negotiations will begin. There is nothing in section 6 or precedent that says X many months from last COLA.
And how do you KNOW that if you pick up a 15 hour trip as a line holder you won't get paid 15 additional hours? Seems like you are reading tea leaves and coming to a conclusion that might very well be incorrect.
I doubt VERY much the union would vote unanimously to approve an agreement that cuts lineholders ability to get paid from open time.
I think you need to wait for language and Q&A before you make such sweeping assumptions.
And I do not see a 2022 COLA increase as a contract extension. The contract becomes amendable on the same date as previously, and negotiations will begin. There is nothing in section 6 or precedent that says X many months from last COLA.
12-17-2020, 10:00 PM
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2019
Posts: 22
When I first looked at the bullet points I thought this might be a good deal. The more I looked at them and dug into what they mean the less I liked it. Disagree with me if you want, especially after the final language comes out but after taking some time to digest it this is how I see it.
1) 6, 9, 12, 24 month Extended Incentive Lines at 55 hours. Not enough credit for me to care about it. If it was 65 hours I'd be all over it, maybe even 63.
2) VPLOA. Don't qualify, don't care.
3) May 1st 2022 2% pay raise. This feels like a 1 year contract extension for a 2% pay raise. Obviously ALPA is going to wait until Jetblue is profitable to get our new CBA, at which point Jetblue will stall as long as they can. Their stalling justification will be based off our last pay raise. It's almost like it happened before when we got a pay raise in exchange for "agreeing" to give up PS. The 2% COLA is too expensive for me in the long run.
4) FLICA waiting room that may or may not be added through MEMRAT later. It's a nothing burger and I don't really care about it anyway.
5) Relief from Targeted Line Value (TLV) through December 31, 2021 + Note: Average Line Value (ALV) and minimum guarantee provisions of LOA 12 are not extended. This is where it all falls apart for me. It's no wonder they split them up. They should have just put an * with the note in tiny fine print at the bottom. Separate they seem OK. Reserve is going back to 75 hours. Great! I read through the entire section on this in LOA 12 to get a full understanding of what this meant. Line holders can fly any amount set by the company in the TLV and get paid 70 hours just like now. The difference is the ALV. Anything you fly over TLV just goes toward your MLV.
Example:
TLV is 55 hours for the month. You experience several delays and a diversion during the month causing you to over block 5 hours. A nice 12 hour 2 day drops into open time and for some reason the usual suspects don't pick it up so you grab it. Under LOA 12 you would get paid 87 hours. Under this new AIP you would get paid 72 hours. In this example you are working 15 hours for free before you can make more then the 70 hours MLV. How much free work you have to do before you can break MLV will be set by the company on a month to month basis per category and class.
The reserves and line holders have a symbiotic relationship. Line holders want to make as much as possible so they pick up all the open time. Reserves don't want to fly so they sit home and collect 70 hours between doing 3 takeoffs and landings in the sim every 3 months. Everybody wins. This AIP would take away line holders incentive to do any extra flying. So you end up with every reserve flying close to 75 hours per month and line holders flying TLV.
So since there is really no carrot in this AIP then there must be a stick. Which brings us to point 6. The veiled threat of furlough.
6) No furlough period May 1, 2021, through May 1, 2022 unless they need to furlough October 1st, 2021. It may as well be May 2032 because Jetblue has no intention of furloughing. The vaccine is out, approved and being injected into peoples arms as I type this. Another vaccine will probably be approved tomorrow. If that's not enough J&J should have one approved next week. People can't wait to visit friends and relatives. Everyone in this country needs a vacation after this year. The flood gates are about to open which is why Jetblue is trying to lock something in quick. The Flight Attendants didn't fall for it but maybe the pilots will. They already announced to all the other groups no furlough. You think they are going to furlough pilots and keep everyone else on board with no flights to service? Keep in mind the expense involved in a furlough, displace and retrain. That ship sailed in October. It's not gonna happen May 1st.
The tricky thing about this AIP is it doesn't look like concessions. The pay rates stay the same. The MLV goes back to 75 hours for reserves. The simple fact is this AIP is going to save the company a lot of money and they are saving that money by not paying it to the pilots. This job has always been a balancing act between making money and quality of life. For some this AIP will reduce their ability to make money and for others it will reduce their QOL. The flying will be spread evenly. The company will set your pay/QOL fulcrum where they want it, not where you need it.
1) 6, 9, 12, 24 month Extended Incentive Lines at 55 hours. Not enough credit for me to care about it. If it was 65 hours I'd be all over it, maybe even 63.
2) VPLOA. Don't qualify, don't care.
3) May 1st 2022 2% pay raise. This feels like a 1 year contract extension for a 2% pay raise. Obviously ALPA is going to wait until Jetblue is profitable to get our new CBA, at which point Jetblue will stall as long as they can. Their stalling justification will be based off our last pay raise. It's almost like it happened before when we got a pay raise in exchange for "agreeing" to give up PS. The 2% COLA is too expensive for me in the long run.
4) FLICA waiting room that may or may not be added through MEMRAT later. It's a nothing burger and I don't really care about it anyway.
5) Relief from Targeted Line Value (TLV) through December 31, 2021 + Note: Average Line Value (ALV) and minimum guarantee provisions of LOA 12 are not extended. This is where it all falls apart for me. It's no wonder they split them up. They should have just put an * with the note in tiny fine print at the bottom. Separate they seem OK. Reserve is going back to 75 hours. Great! I read through the entire section on this in LOA 12 to get a full understanding of what this meant. Line holders can fly any amount set by the company in the TLV and get paid 70 hours just like now. The difference is the ALV. Anything you fly over TLV just goes toward your MLV.
Example:
TLV is 55 hours for the month. You experience several delays and a diversion during the month causing you to over block 5 hours. A nice 12 hour 2 day drops into open time and for some reason the usual suspects don't pick it up so you grab it. Under LOA 12 you would get paid 87 hours. Under this new AIP you would get paid 72 hours. In this example you are working 15 hours for free before you can make more then the 70 hours MLV. How much free work you have to do before you can break MLV will be set by the company on a month to month basis per category and class.
The reserves and line holders have a symbiotic relationship. Line holders want to make as much as possible so they pick up all the open time. Reserves don't want to fly so they sit home and collect 70 hours between doing 3 takeoffs and landings in the sim every 3 months. Everybody wins. This AIP would take away line holders incentive to do any extra flying. So you end up with every reserve flying close to 75 hours per month and line holders flying TLV.
So since there is really no carrot in this AIP then there must be a stick. Which brings us to point 6. The veiled threat of furlough.
6) No furlough period May 1, 2021, through May 1, 2022 unless they need to furlough October 1st, 2021. It may as well be May 2032 because Jetblue has no intention of furloughing. The vaccine is out, approved and being injected into peoples arms as I type this. Another vaccine will probably be approved tomorrow. If that's not enough J&J should have one approved next week. People can't wait to visit friends and relatives. Everyone in this country needs a vacation after this year. The flood gates are about to open which is why Jetblue is trying to lock something in quick. The Flight Attendants didn't fall for it but maybe the pilots will. They already announced to all the other groups no furlough. You think they are going to furlough pilots and keep everyone else on board with no flights to service? Keep in mind the expense involved in a furlough, displace and retrain. That ship sailed in October. It's not gonna happen May 1st.
The tricky thing about this AIP is it doesn't look like concessions. The pay rates stay the same. The MLV goes back to 75 hours for reserves. The simple fact is this AIP is going to save the company a lot of money and they are saving that money by not paying it to the pilots. This job has always been a balancing act between making money and quality of life. For some this AIP will reduce their ability to make money and for others it will reduce their QOL. The flying will be spread evenly. The company will set your pay/QOL fulcrum where they want it, not where you need it.
12-18-2020, 03:35 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,327
TLV per the CBA is 77-84. They can’t do that. Not enough flying. I believe that is the relief they are talking about. All flying picked up will go on top of guarantee as usual. I can’t imagine a world that airlines don’t furlough when revenue is below 40% for a year. Not saying I’m not in that world but B6’s furlough costs are a lot less than the big guys because we only have two fleets. They could easily chop 1000 guys and bring 100-300 a year as needed. They could run the operation with less than 2000 pilots right now. If they chop 1000 then a large percentage of the pilot groups QOL and pay will go to *******. If you’ve been bidding at 30%, you will now be closer to 60%. Just because your not up for furlough doesn’t mean you aren’t screwed. Had a buddy at AA. Was about 200 from furlough but missed it and was commuting to SCR for 8 years on the MD. Something to consider. And now he’s screwed again. Will probably lose the left seat now and they are contracting flying out to us. WE STINK AGAIN! Keeping the pilot group intact benefits at least 70%.
12-18-2020, 05:04 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 172
yah this utopia that JetBlue pilots live in is wild. At some point the company will furlough. Simply don’t need us. I’m not sure why this is so hard for people to wrap their heads around. I will agree with you on the TLV. I think they need to do the same thing they did with LOA12. You still get your 75 or 70 but line values are going to be 30 hours or 50.
12-18-2020, 05:05 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2018
Posts: 133
When I first looked at the bullet points I thought this might be a good deal. The more I looked at them and dug into what they mean the less I liked it. Disagree with me if you want, especially after the final language comes out but after taking some time to digest it this is how I see it.
1) 6, 9, 12, 24 month Extended Incentive Lines at 55 hours. Not enough credit for me to care about it. If it was 65 hours I'd be all over it, maybe even 63.
2) VPLOA. Don't qualify, don't care.
3) May 1st 2022 2% pay raise. This feels like a 1 year contract extension for a 2% pay raise. Obviously ALPA is going to wait until Jetblue is profitable to get our new CBA, at which point Jetblue will stall as long as they can. Their stalling justification will be based off our last pay raise. It's almost like it happened before when we got a pay raise in exchange for "agreeing" to give up PS. The 2% COLA is too expensive for me in the long run.
4) FLICA waiting room that may or may not be added through MEMRAT later. It's a nothing burger and I don't really care about it anyway.
5) Relief from Targeted Line Value (TLV) through December 31, 2021 + Note: Average Line Value (ALV) and minimum guarantee provisions of LOA 12 are not extended. This is where it all falls apart for me. It's no wonder they split them up. They should have just put an * with the note in tiny fine print at the bottom. Separate they seem OK. Reserve is going back to 75 hours. Great! I read through the entire section on this in LOA 12 to get a full understanding of what this meant. Line holders can fly any amount set by the company in the TLV and get paid 70 hours just like now. The difference is the ALV. Anything you fly over TLV just goes toward your MLV.
Example:
TLV is 55 hours for the month. You experience several delays and a diversion during the month causing you to over block 5 hours. A nice 12 hour 2 day drops into open time and for some reason the usual suspects don't pick it up so you grab it. Under LOA 12 you would get paid 87 hours. Under this new AIP you would get paid 72 hours. In this example you are working 15 hours for free before you can make more then the 70 hours MLV. How much free work you have to do before you can break MLV will be set by the company on a month to month basis per category and class.
The reserves and line holders have a symbiotic relationship. Line holders want to make as much as possible so they pick up all the open time. Reserves don't want to fly so they sit home and collect 70 hours between doing 3 takeoffs and landings in the sim every 3 months. Everybody wins. This AIP would take away line holders incentive to do any extra flying. So you end up with every reserve flying close to 75 hours per month and line holders flying TLV.
So since there is really no carrot in this AIP then there must be a stick. Which brings us to point 6. The veiled threat of furlough.
6) No furlough period May 1, 2021, through May 1, 2022 unless they need to furlough October 1st, 2021. It may as well be May 2032 because Jetblue has no intention of furloughing. The vaccine is out, approved and being injected into peoples arms as I type this. Another vaccine will probably be approved tomorrow. If that's not enough J&J should have one approved next week. People can't wait to visit friends and relatives. Everyone in this country needs a vacation after this year. The flood gates are about to open which is why Jetblue is trying to lock something in quick. The Flight Attendants didn't fall for it but maybe the pilots will. They already announced to all the other groups no furlough. You think they are going to furlough pilots and keep everyone else on board with no flights to service? Keep in mind the expense involved in a furlough, displace and retrain. That ship sailed in October. It's not gonna happen May 1st.
The tricky thing about this AIP is it doesn't look like concessions. The pay rates stay the same. The MLV goes back to 75 hours for reserves. The simple fact is this AIP is going to save the company a lot of money and they are saving that money by not paying it to the pilots. This job has always been a balancing act between making money and quality of life. For some this AIP will reduce their ability to make money and for others it will reduce their QOL. The flying will be spread evenly. The company will set your pay/QOL fulcrum where they want it, not where you need it.
1) 6, 9, 12, 24 month Extended Incentive Lines at 55 hours. Not enough credit for me to care about it. If it was 65 hours I'd be all over it, maybe even 63.
2) VPLOA. Don't qualify, don't care.
3) May 1st 2022 2% pay raise. This feels like a 1 year contract extension for a 2% pay raise. Obviously ALPA is going to wait until Jetblue is profitable to get our new CBA, at which point Jetblue will stall as long as they can. Their stalling justification will be based off our last pay raise. It's almost like it happened before when we got a pay raise in exchange for "agreeing" to give up PS. The 2% COLA is too expensive for me in the long run.
4) FLICA waiting room that may or may not be added through MEMRAT later. It's a nothing burger and I don't really care about it anyway.
5) Relief from Targeted Line Value (TLV) through December 31, 2021 + Note: Average Line Value (ALV) and minimum guarantee provisions of LOA 12 are not extended. This is where it all falls apart for me. It's no wonder they split them up. They should have just put an * with the note in tiny fine print at the bottom. Separate they seem OK. Reserve is going back to 75 hours. Great! I read through the entire section on this in LOA 12 to get a full understanding of what this meant. Line holders can fly any amount set by the company in the TLV and get paid 70 hours just like now. The difference is the ALV. Anything you fly over TLV just goes toward your MLV.
Example:
TLV is 55 hours for the month. You experience several delays and a diversion during the month causing you to over block 5 hours. A nice 12 hour 2 day drops into open time and for some reason the usual suspects don't pick it up so you grab it. Under LOA 12 you would get paid 87 hours. Under this new AIP you would get paid 72 hours. In this example you are working 15 hours for free before you can make more then the 70 hours MLV. How much free work you have to do before you can break MLV will be set by the company on a month to month basis per category and class.
The reserves and line holders have a symbiotic relationship. Line holders want to make as much as possible so they pick up all the open time. Reserves don't want to fly so they sit home and collect 70 hours between doing 3 takeoffs and landings in the sim every 3 months. Everybody wins. This AIP would take away line holders incentive to do any extra flying. So you end up with every reserve flying close to 75 hours per month and line holders flying TLV.
So since there is really no carrot in this AIP then there must be a stick. Which brings us to point 6. The veiled threat of furlough.
6) No furlough period May 1, 2021, through May 1, 2022 unless they need to furlough October 1st, 2021. It may as well be May 2032 because Jetblue has no intention of furloughing. The vaccine is out, approved and being injected into peoples arms as I type this. Another vaccine will probably be approved tomorrow. If that's not enough J&J should have one approved next week. People can't wait to visit friends and relatives. Everyone in this country needs a vacation after this year. The flood gates are about to open which is why Jetblue is trying to lock something in quick. The Flight Attendants didn't fall for it but maybe the pilots will. They already announced to all the other groups no furlough. You think they are going to furlough pilots and keep everyone else on board with no flights to service? Keep in mind the expense involved in a furlough, displace and retrain. That ship sailed in October. It's not gonna happen May 1st.
The tricky thing about this AIP is it doesn't look like concessions. The pay rates stay the same. The MLV goes back to 75 hours for reserves. The simple fact is this AIP is going to save the company a lot of money and they are saving that money by not paying it to the pilots. This job has always been a balancing act between making money and quality of life. For some this AIP will reduce their ability to make money and for others it will reduce their QOL. The flying will be spread evenly. The company will set your pay/QOL fulcrum where they want it, not where you need it.
12-18-2020, 05:11 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,327
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