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Old 03-23-2016, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Firsttimeflyer
Maybe only exclude legacy captains who have been on property under 2 years from going through KCM? You know, since that might be offensive
What are you talking about? Why would legacy captains be excluded from KCM and who is asking for that?
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Old 03-23-2016, 08:25 AM
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What are you talking about? Why would legacy captains be excluded from KCM and who is asking for that?
I think he's referring to the thread where you got hammered for a simple opinion on DAL 2 years guy upgrading to the 88
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Old 03-23-2016, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Lobaeux
What are you talking about? Why would legacy captains be excluded from KCM and who is asking for that?

Lol.. Really???? You didn't get that????

As for being an offensive thread, that's just silly. So people have opinions, as dumb as some are (see your DAL 2 year legacy thread as an example). Why not educate, debate, help people grow, instead of just shutting it down? 😉

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Old 03-23-2016, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Lobaeux
What are you talking about? Why would legacy captains be excluded from KCM and who is asking for that?
Right over your head...
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Quite frankly I don't trust a great many of you. We should be screened. KCM with an x-ray belt doesn't seem unreasonable to me.
This already excists. It's called pre check
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Wow! Again, sarcasm doesn't translate well. I was being cheeky but that doesn't matter.

Having an opinion about the possibile safety issues with a lack of systems knowledge and/or experience in an airframe is different than a lack of respect for required crewmembers.

I didn't mind opposing viewpoints on the captain upgrade thread until it got personal. Rather than thinking, "hey he may have a point, especially since we may be seeing guys getting hired with the bare minimums and no TPIC due to a pilot shortage and immediately (which in terms of a long career, 1.5 years is immediately) being placed in the left seat with another pilot who was hired right at minimums, maybe there are some safety concerns", regardless of what airline it is, the Keyboard Kommandos immediately took offense and started personal attacks. My PM was full of guys and their hate. That's fine, I grew bored with it.

But now, we're slagging off a whole section of our crew due to the actions of one flight attendant. It's seeing guys on an anonymous forum talking a lot of big talk, yet when they're on the job have a totally opposing viewpoint that's frustrating.

Just my opinion, but I thought it was a little disrespectful to treat our fellow crew members like they're not part of the team, like they're more of a bother than their worth.
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Originally Posted by Lobaeux
Wow! Again, sarcasm doesn't translate well. I was being cheeky but that doesn't matter.

Having an opinion about the possibile safety issues with a lack of systems knowledge and/or experience in an airframe is different than a lack of respect for required crewmembers.

I didn't mind opposing viewpoints on the captain upgrade thread until it got personal. Rather than thinking, "hey he may have a point, especially since we may be seeing guys getting hired with the bare minimums and no TPIC due to a pilot shortage and immediately (which in terms of a long career, 1.5 years is immediately) being placed in the left seat with another pilot who was hired right at minimums, maybe there are some safety concerns", regardless of what airline it is, the Keyboard Kommandos immediately took offense and started personal attacks. My PM was full of guys and their hate. That's fine, I grew bored with it.

But now, we're slagging off a whole section of our crew due to the actions of one flight attendant. It's seeing guys on an anonymous forum talking a lot of big talk, yet when they're on the job have a totally opposing viewpoint that's frustrating.

Just my opinion, but I thought it was a little disrespectful to treat our fellow crew members like they're not part of the team, like they're more of a bother than their worth.
You have to add face thingys and I'm the worlds worst at sarcasm.

Good points, I just don't give much credence to an anonymous board. Anyone of us could be radicalized or a drug dealer. I think there's some validity that it's possible it would be easier to target the isle professional due to a lower career expectation?? Personally I don't care if we all have to lift our bags on a belt, or talk to a whacko, but I'm not into complacency or laziness. I'm into returning to my family, friends and excellent life.
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Originally Posted by putzin
You have to add face thingys and I'm the worlds worst at sarcasm.

Good points, I just don't give much credence to an anonymous board. Anyone of us could be radicalized or a drug dealer. I think there's some validity that it's possible it would be easier to target the isle professional due to a lower career expectation?? Personally I don't care if we all have to lift our bags on a belt, or talk to a whacko, but I'm not into complacency or laziness. I'm into returning to my family, friends and excellent life.
You're right in the face thingys.

I don't know about lower career expectations though. There are FAs at all the airlines that have been there longer than a lot of us and have made a career of being a Flight Attendant.
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Old 03-23-2016, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by putzin
You have to add face thingys and I'm the worlds worst at sarcasm.

Good points, I just don't give much credence to an anonymous board. Anyone of us could be radicalized or a drug dealer. I think there's some validity that it's possible it would be easier to target the isle professional due to a lower career expectation?? Personally I don't care if we all have to lift our bags on a belt, or talk to a whacko, but I'm not into complacency or laziness. I'm into returning to my family, friends and excellent life.
Which "isle" would that be----Aruba, Jamaica, Long Island?

You'd all be wise to remember some "grannies, grandes, cart donkeys, aisle mules and cat ranchers" have been working at their job longer than you've graced the earth with your presence/superiority!
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