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Old 03-22-2016, 07:53 PM
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Quite frankly I don't trust a great many of you. We should be screened. KCM with an x-ray belt doesn't seem unreasonable to me.
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Old 03-23-2016, 04:00 AM
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This is why I don't believe KCM should have been made available to F/As. It has nothing to do with who's better. It's simply a security threat.

Pilots go through a lot more training and scrutiny to be an airline pilot and ultimately we are behind the controls behind a secure door. No need to bring anything to cause harm.

F/As are basically someone with 6 weeks of training and that's it. If I'm a terrorist cell I would get a ton of F/As in the airlines and when the time was right activate them. Think about it. It doesn't take much to become one plus we all know how flawd those background checks can be. That's the only reason I don't think they should use KCM. they pose a higher security threat
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Old 03-23-2016, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by phoenix 23684
This is why I don't believe KCM should have been made available to F/As. It has nothing to do with who's better. It's simply a security threat.

Pilots go through a lot more training and scrutiny to be an airline pilot and ultimately we are behind the controls behind a secure door. No need to bring anything to cause harm.

F/As are basically someone with 6 weeks of training and that's it. If I'm a terrorist cell I would get a ton of F/As in the airlines and when the time was right activate them. Think about it. It doesn't take much to become one plus we all know how flawd those background checks can be. That's the only reason I don't think they should use KCM. they pose a higher security threat
All this seems to be a bit of an overreaction IMHO..... I mean she was trying to bring drugs across state lines. I got that we have a war on drugs and all..... but in reality if I were American Air I'd be upset that she were trying to jumpseat with a carryon that exceeded 70lbs!
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Old 03-23-2016, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Bestglide
Infinite delays? They will just have to show up earlier...solved...

Germanwings, I agree all the security screening in the world would not have mattered. So it's a mute point here isn't it?
Moot point,
mute point doesn't make much sense, does it?
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Old 03-23-2016, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by phoenix 23684
This is why I don't believe KCM should have been made available to F/As. It has nothing to do with who's better. It's simply a security threat.

Pilots go through a lot more training and scrutiny to be an airline pilot and ultimately we are behind the controls behind a secure door. No need to bring anything to cause harm.

F/As are basically someone with 6 weeks of training and that's it. If I'm a terrorist cell I would get a ton of F/As in the airlines and when the time was right activate them. Think about it. It doesn't take much to become one plus we all know how flawd those background checks can be. That's the only reason I don't think they should use KCM. they pose a higher security threat
You do know that they go through the exact same background checks as those required for pilots. Please explain how it's good enough for us, but not them?
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Old 03-23-2016, 08:02 AM
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Some of you guys sound paranoid AND obnoxious. Dumping on FAs to build up your own ego is a tad over the top. Are there FAs who could have bad intentions? Yes....BUT pilots aren't totally in the clear. I think as fellow crew members we should be very and I mean VERY concerned about other serious holes in the system.

Also, FAs go through the same background check as you guys, so not sure how you think there's some kind of difference. If I want to stir the pot, I can say many regional boys are young and stupid when they go into hock up to tens of thousands of dollars for crappy starting pay at a crap regional and may be ripe for making some extra money to help pay down that debt. I made more money when I started at my regional than FOs did. I venture to say I still make more than double what some guys start at.

Thanks to all the gentlemen who don't buy into the argument that pilots have halos on their heads while FAs are the devil.
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Old 03-23-2016, 08:02 AM
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I'd worry more about the rampers going through the bagwell door with ZERO security scrutiny than the F/As in the KCM line.
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Old 03-23-2016, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
You do know that they go through the exact same background checks as those required for pilots. Please explain how it's good enough for us, but not them?

Looks like great minds think alike! We were typing the same thing at the same time about the background check.
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Old 03-23-2016, 08:06 AM
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Moderators, please close this thread, it's become pretty offensive to our fellow crewmembers.
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Old 03-23-2016, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Lobaeux
Moderators, please close this thread, it's become pretty offensive to our fellow crewmembers.
Maybe only exclude legacy captains who have been on property under 2 years from going through KCM? You know, since that might be offensive
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