jetBlue Hiring
02-09-2017, 12:04 PM
#9571
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,023
Because that seems to be the tenor of your posts. Yes, I'm a JetBlue pilot.
I understand the need for transparency and realism, as well as the very real need for contractual improvements, but there seems to be a certain level of duplicity in many of the "nobody should apply here" posts. The motives of anyone with anything positive to say about JetBlue are impugned, yet it's obvious that the primary motive of the highly negative posts is not to spread factual information, it's to discourage applicants in order to improve our bargaining position.
No, people are simply telling the truth.
For far too long boards such as these were littered with the "happy to be here crowd" and where did this get the pilot group? No one wanted to tell the truth. They simply repeated Jetblue managements rhetoric about culture and being lucky to work here. Again, where did this get the pilot group. Last in almost ever measurable category.
Its time people know the reality of what Jetblue is. If you can live with it then fine, apply. If not then don't.
But no longer will the "juicer" crowd over rule those of us who are working to make this place better.
For far too long boards such as these were littered with the "happy to be here crowd" and where did this get the pilot group? No one wanted to tell the truth. They simply repeated Jetblue managements rhetoric about culture and being lucky to work here. Again, where did this get the pilot group. Last in almost ever measurable category.
Its time people know the reality of what Jetblue is. If you can live with it then fine, apply. If not then don't.
But no longer will the "juicer" crowd over rule those of us who are working to make this place better.
02-09-2017, 12:58 PM
#9572
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: At JBLU
Posts: 337
Because that seems to be the tenor of your posts. Yes, I'm a JetBlue pilot.
I understand the need for transparency and realism, as well as the very real need for contractual improvements, but there seems to be a certain level of duplicity in many of the "nobody should apply here" posts. The motives of anyone with anything positive to say about JetBlue are impugned, yet it's obvious that the primary motive of the highly negative posts is not to spread factual information, it's to discourage applicants in order to improve our bargaining position.
I understand the need for transparency and realism, as well as the very real need for contractual improvements, but there seems to be a certain level of duplicity in many of the "nobody should apply here" posts. The motives of anyone with anything positive to say about JetBlue are impugned, yet it's obvious that the primary motive of the highly negative posts is not to spread factual information, it's to discourage applicants in order to improve our bargaining position.
We all want to think we made a good descision about our careers. Some people paint a rosy picture to make themselves feel better about their choice.
I would discourage people from working at JB. Believe it or NOT it's not to improve my personal life by putting pressure on mgmt.
It really isn't. To say "it's obvious that is the motive" is not true....just because YOU can't believe someone is giving altruistic advice doesn't mean it isn't happening. Are you that jaded?
It's because I fell for the rhetoric and blue juice. Like many others. Is it better here than most regionals? ABSOLUTELY! And if that is the minimum qualification to advance your career then come on over to blue. If your regional is a sinking ship and you need a place to go? Come on over.
But if you want to work for a major airline that treats you like a professional and has the infrastructure to run an efficient company, then all I am saying is keep looking and concentrate your efforts somewhere else.
02-09-2017, 01:04 PM
#9573
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,920
Because that seems to be the tenor of your posts. Yes, I'm a JetBlue pilot.
I understand the need for transparency and realism, as well as the very real need for contractual improvements, but there seems to be a certain level of duplicity in many of the "nobody should apply here" posts. The motives of anyone with anything positive to say about JetBlue are impugned, yet it's obvious that the primary motive of the highly negative posts is not to spread factual information, it's to discourage applicants in order to improve our bargaining position.
I understand the need for transparency and realism, as well as the very real need for contractual improvements, but there seems to be a certain level of duplicity in many of the "nobody should apply here" posts. The motives of anyone with anything positive to say about JetBlue are impugned, yet it's obvious that the primary motive of the highly negative posts is not to spread factual information, it's to discourage applicants in order to improve our bargaining position.
02-09-2017, 01:32 PM
#9574
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,206
jetBlue Hiring
False equivalence. One can want a strong bargaining position, but also not want to lie to make things appear worse than they are.
This is still a very good job, even without the improvements we hope to get in our CBA. Is it Delta? Nope. Will it ever be Delta? I hope not. Jesus those guys seem miserable. Some of you would fit right in...
02-09-2017, 03:18 PM
#9575
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2012
Position: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
Posts: 2,928
You want to "tell the truth" so people don't apply here to help our bargaining position which would help you and that is right.
We are being selfish and you are being altruistic
It's a common problem in the world today. You are just as guilty as the others you judge on here.
02-09-2017, 03:38 PM
#9576
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Joined APC: May 2013
Posts: 2,594
Because I care about helping other people who are trying to get a job. I'm not interested in pulling the ladder up. You have the exact same attitude as the pilots who gave away scope 20 years ago. "I want my position to be better, anyone below me can stay where they are"
02-09-2017, 03:41 PM
#9577
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2013
Posts: 2,594
I don't disagree with your premise, I disagree with your conclusion: Our contract is grossly behind our peers, therefore in an effort to increase negotiating leverage, JetBlue pilots must paint as negative a picture as possible to discourage as many potential applicants as possible, and any potentially positive opinions must be ridiculed and silenced.
02-09-2017, 03:43 PM
#9578
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2013
Posts: 2,594
I think your tone and content make people ignore you rather than listen. You sound irrational, and everyone has flown with the disgruntled blow-hard before. The first thing you do when you're with someone like that is stare out the window and turn off the intercom.
Your message might be better received if you dialed it down a bit.
Your message might be better received if you dialed it down a bit.
02-09-2017, 03:47 PM
#9579
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2013
Posts: 2,594
False equivalence. One can want a strong bargaining position, but also not want to lie to make things appear worse than they are.
This is still a very good job, even without the improvements we hope to get in our CBA. Is it Delta? Nope. Will it ever be Delta? I hope not. Jesus those guys seem miserable. Some of you would fit right in...
This is still a very good job, even without the improvements we hope to get in our CBA. Is it Delta? Nope. Will it ever be Delta? I hope not. Jesus those guys seem miserable. Some of you would fit right in...
This culture of B6 is that RH and management demand industry leading pay while expecting the pilot group to eat sh7t.
02-09-2017, 04:15 PM
#9580
What’s it doing now?
Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: 190CA
Posts: 726
You've got me all wrong rocket surgeon. Re-re-schedule my last full paragraph.
And some big helper you are. Helping someone get hired here over the big 4 will cost them over a million bucks total compensation and retirement. All the while helping JetBlue keep things are the way the are now. Congrats.
And, by the way, I don't believe you for one second. You want seniority and to sooth your fragile ego.
Helping! Ha, who needs enemies when they have friends like you. More like helping Long Island City.
And some big helper you are. Helping someone get hired here over the big 4 will cost them over a million bucks total compensation and retirement. All the while helping JetBlue keep things are the way the are now. Congrats.
And, by the way, I don't believe you for one second. You want seniority and to sooth your fragile ego.
Helping! Ha, who needs enemies when they have friends like you. More like helping Long Island City.
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