jetBlue Hiring
03-29-2016, 07:27 PM
#7521
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Yeah that was my point. Idk where that guy got that we weren't losing that many.
03-29-2016, 07:56 PM
#7524
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Position: fifi whisperer
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Oh you Comair guys......
I'm not disagreeing that we lose a significant amount of people to Delta, UA, AA etc. I'm more referring to past management and union blast mails that have stated that hiring numbers were moved lower due to attrition less than plan.
I'm not disagreeing that we lose a significant amount of people to Delta, UA, AA etc. I'm more referring to past management and union blast mails that have stated that hiring numbers were moved lower due to attrition less than plan.
03-29-2016, 07:59 PM
#7525
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I've never worked for comair first off. Secondly your statements about hiring and attrition are incorrect.
03-29-2016, 08:08 PM
#7527
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I would just like to see the emails from the union and company stating that attrition isn't as bad as they thought?
Let's use round figures. Let's say the company projects to lose 120 for year or 10 per month and we've lost let's say 40 ish for the year or 13.3 per month. 13.3 is greater than 10 therefore we have lost more than projected. We need around 135-140 just to saff the 10 new airframes coming on property. If we've hired 60ish pilots for the year and lost 40ish that's a net of 20. Divide that by 3months and its 6.6 pilots per month or 80 for the year. So if the current Trend continues we wil be understaffed by 60 give or take.
Let's use round figures. Let's say the company projects to lose 120 for year or 10 per month and we've lost let's say 40 ish for the year or 13.3 per month. 13.3 is greater than 10 therefore we have lost more than projected. We need around 135-140 just to saff the 10 new airframes coming on property. If we've hired 60ish pilots for the year and lost 40ish that's a net of 20. Divide that by 3months and its 6.6 pilots per month or 80 for the year. So if the current Trend continues we wil be understaffed by 60 give or take.
03-29-2016, 08:15 PM
#7528
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I would just like to see the emails from the union and company stating that attrition isn't as bad as they thought?
Let's use round figures. Let's say the company projects to lose 120 for year or 10 per month and we've lost let's say 40 ish for the year or 13.3 per month. 13.3 is greater than 10 therefore we have lost more than projected. We need around 135-140 just to saff the 10 new airframes coming on property. If we've hired 60ish pilots for the year and lost 40ish that's a net of 20. Divide that by 3months and its 6.6 pilots per month or 80 for the year. So if the current Trend continues we wil be understaffed by 60 give or take.
Let's use round figures. Let's say the company projects to lose 120 for year or 10 per month and we've lost let's say 40 ish for the year or 13.3 per month. 13.3 is greater than 10 therefore we have lost more than projected. We need around 135-140 just to saff the 10 new airframes coming on property. If we've hired 60ish pilots for the year and lost 40ish that's a net of 20. Divide that by 3months and its 6.6 pilots per month or 80 for the year. So if the current Trend continues we wil be understaffed by 60 give or take.
I actually agree with you on the second part of your answer. I think we are being moved toward being short staffed with both attrition and the new airplanes on property. I'm guessing this is to put pressure on the pilot group until the CBA is setup.
03-30-2016, 06:56 AM
#7529
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Position: 737
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Over five of us in my new hire class (Nov 14) have left so far (including me). Attrition has picked up this year because many were in the pool with delta that are now getting assigned classes after a long wait. Nothing against Jetblue but a 35% pay deficit isn't gonna keep pilots around long
03-30-2016, 07:16 AM
#7530
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I spoke to Jeff Martin at the end of last year and he said their hiring numbers for 2015, 300-350, were based on an attrition of 150-175 and a need to staff the additional airframes, 175. He said attrition was way under what they had predicted - under 80 for all of 2015.
Originally they had planned the same hiring for 2016. There is a union or company email floating around stating that they went down to 175. My guess is that number will need to go back up if this much higher attrition continues. I would also say that it will continue as the legacies continue to open the floodgates, and jetBlue continues to stall a new contract.
Originally they had planned the same hiring for 2016. There is a union or company email floating around stating that they went down to 175. My guess is that number will need to go back up if this much higher attrition continues. I would also say that it will continue as the legacies continue to open the floodgates, and jetBlue continues to stall a new contract.
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