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05-31-2013, 10:43 AM
#61
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Are there any jetBlue reserve experts who can explain long call / short call along with how one is transitioned from long call to short call? (Does that happen at a certain time of the day?)
Thanks in advance
Thanks in advance
05-31-2013, 11:45 AM
#63
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05-31-2013, 11:55 AM
#65
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What is a gateway?
05-31-2013, 01:30 PM
#66
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Position: A320 FO
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They can transition you to SCR pretty much any time during your LCR period, which starts at midnight and runs until midnight the next day. MOST of the time, if you're getting escalated to SCR, you'll know sometime between noon and 1:30 (depending on who's running FLiCA at the time) the day prior. I never got the "You start SCR in 14 hours" call from scheduling. It always popped up on the daily reserve report the day prior. You can sometimes get a feel for when it's going to happen by looking at how many guys are ahead of you and what's in open time. In BOS on the E190 prior to the summer, 11-13 guys ahead of you normally meant you were safe from getting escalated on the daily reserve list.
05-31-2013, 01:40 PM
#67
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This isn't really part of the topic of this thread (as far as we know) but a buddy of mine sent me an email explaining the 3a lawsuit for those of us who never heard of it before yesterday. I thought the information was important enough to share. Here is what he sent me:
"I’m sure you have heard by now that the judge ruled in favor of the pilots on the “3A arbitration.” 3A refers to the section of our PEA (individual contract) that states that every pilot will receive an identical percentage pay increase that a new hire receives. In 2007, the 190 pilot rates were extremely low and the company increased the 190 pay rates without increasing Airbus wages an equal percentage amount. This was found to be in violation of section 3A of our PEA.
This is obviously good for those pilots that were involved in the lawsuit, but I’m not sure how it will affect us that are not involved. I don’t think it will negatively affect us too much. The good things that came out of this are that there is now legal precedence that we can be viewed as a group and not viewed as individual contractors (beneficial in a merger). Maybe it will also force the company to treat the PEA as a real contract instead of changing it on a whim when they feel necessary.
I don’t know how or when the pilots will be paid as that is yet to be determined. There is obviously a lot of speculation about back pay, future pay rates, and a B-scale. There is a lot of discussion on the company ***** board about future pay rates, and it may stand that after our pay increase for 2014 the rates will be in line to what the pay rates would be as dictated by the 3A ruling, therefore no B-scale. There are some, and especially the lower-level management types, that say the company will do the right thing and if the 3A guys are giving an increase due to the ruling, they will give it to everybody. I would be surprised if that happens, but I don’t really know.
I’ll let you know as I hear more official information, but I am thinking and hoping that this will be better for all pilots. On the downside, the company is now liable for a very large pay out that could have an impact on other areas. We’ll see how it all plays out."
"I’m sure you have heard by now that the judge ruled in favor of the pilots on the “3A arbitration.” 3A refers to the section of our PEA (individual contract) that states that every pilot will receive an identical percentage pay increase that a new hire receives. In 2007, the 190 pilot rates were extremely low and the company increased the 190 pay rates without increasing Airbus wages an equal percentage amount. This was found to be in violation of section 3A of our PEA.
This is obviously good for those pilots that were involved in the lawsuit, but I’m not sure how it will affect us that are not involved. I don’t think it will negatively affect us too much. The good things that came out of this are that there is now legal precedence that we can be viewed as a group and not viewed as individual contractors (beneficial in a merger). Maybe it will also force the company to treat the PEA as a real contract instead of changing it on a whim when they feel necessary.
I don’t know how or when the pilots will be paid as that is yet to be determined. There is obviously a lot of speculation about back pay, future pay rates, and a B-scale. There is a lot of discussion on the company ***** board about future pay rates, and it may stand that after our pay increase for 2014 the rates will be in line to what the pay rates would be as dictated by the 3A ruling, therefore no B-scale. There are some, and especially the lower-level management types, that say the company will do the right thing and if the 3A guys are giving an increase due to the ruling, they will give it to everybody. I would be surprised if that happens, but I don’t really know.
I’ll let you know as I hear more official information, but I am thinking and hoping that this will be better for all pilots. On the downside, the company is now liable for a very large pay out that could have an impact on other areas. We’ll see how it all plays out."
As for paying for the 3A thing....how about we cancel that lodge project again? I'm not really sure we should be spending money on what amounts to a resort in Orlando right now when so many other issues need to be dealt with first.
05-31-2013, 02:38 PM
#69
Furloughed Again?!
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: Boeing 737
Posts: 4,804
Is that the same time that they pass out the reserve duty periods (not sure what that is called) so you would find out simultaneously if you are short call and what time your short call duty begins?
05-31-2013, 03:29 PM
#70
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