pilotpayne

RVR

The company's stance from what I've read is that if people could afford their deductibles then more people would use their insurance, which the company says would cost them more money.


Is this from the company or the pvc or bpf?
I am not saying you are wrong I just have not seen this.

rvr1800

I completely agree about the negative types it can be draining on a trip with a guy that only complains. The fact is it's easier to be negative than positive in all aspects of life. Sometimes people are just tired or are having troubles at home and they vent in the cockpit. So I try to take it with a grain of salt. I am not immune to complaining. In fact I used to be a constant complainer. It takes a conscious effort sometimes to realize that. You're spot on that guys that complain here will also complain at Delta.

We do however have a few things that are legitimate complaints. Insurance in my opinion is one of them. The dependability policy is not (well maybe the implementation but not the actual policy).

All of us are in this together. The seniority system marries many of us to our current airline. Some will get hired elsewhere but most will stay. That fact makes negotiating as a collective entity a very important thing. If I could leave here and get hired at a different airline at the same seniority then an individual contract would work just fine, like it does in the executive management world. Barger can go get hired as the CEO of American (obviously just an example) but the number one guy on our list would go to American swinging gear. It makes no sense but that's the world we live in, and it's not going to change.

rvr1800

No nothing from official channels. Just word of mouth. So I guess it could be false. But what other reason could there be for the company to say no to that proposal?

pilotpayne

Yeah I don't doubt you.
If that is the case the pvc should call the company out on it.

rvr1800

I have a feeling we'll be getting an email about it in the next few days if it's true.

Southerner

I agree completely that we have very legitimate complaints, and insurance is a big one. I just have a major problem with the constant complaining.

Hopefully we have the vote soon, as that will silence some of it.

benzoate

Actually I wasn't attacking you and my apologies if that how my post sounded. But I appreciate the push back. Going forward I will be more transparent with my post while ensuring the organic nature of the commentary is not misunderstood.

Happy jetting.

pilotpayne

Just do me a favor and add some more color next time so I would know on a go forward basis, that way we can collaborate but not negotiate.

Thanks for not flying jetblue.

AtlCSIP

That's not what I said.

Acrodog

Hi Guys, have a few friends at JB and trying to figure out how to allow them to provide me with internal recommendations. Last couple of times you'd receive an email from HR that you would pass on to your JB insiders. Not so this time. How is it done?
Thanks