jetBlue Hiring
09-13-2015, 03:23 PM
#5611
SDQ Base Chief
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: 320 CA
Posts: 5,659
As far as career progression goes, at JetBlue it is all based on growth and new aircraft. We don't have many retirements. At United it is all based on retirements, and not much total growth. Chose which way you want to roll the dice!
09-13-2015, 03:48 PM
#5612
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2011
Posts: 1,085
I'd stay if you live in a JetBlue base, or were willing to move to a JB base. United would make sense if you lived in Houston/Chicago/SanFran and didn't want to move.
As far as career progression goes, at JetBlue it is all based on growth and new aircraft. We don't have many retirements. At United it is all based on retirements, and not much total growth. Chose which way you want to roll the dice!
As far as career progression goes, at JetBlue it is all based on growth and new aircraft. We don't have many retirements. At United it is all based on retirements, and not much total growth. Chose which way you want to roll the dice!
It makes total since to stay if you want to live in FL or Boston.
If you want to live anywhere else, I would recommend a legacy (if you can get hired). There are way more retirements, more pay, currently better reserve rules, better flight benefits.
09-13-2015, 04:22 PM
#5613
Line Holder
Joined APC: Mar 2015
Posts: 83
Pretty much agree with above (I'm a JB guy for reference).
It makes total since to stay if you want to live in FL or Boston.
If you want to live anywhere else, I would recommend a legacy (if you can get hired). There are way more retirements, more pay, currently better reserve rules, better flight benefits.
It makes total since to stay if you want to live in FL or Boston.
If you want to live anywhere else, I would recommend a legacy (if you can get hired). There are way more retirements, more pay, currently better reserve rules, better flight benefits.
09-13-2015, 08:29 PM
#5614
What’s it doing now?
Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: 190CA
Posts: 726
If upgrade is the most important thing, I'm thinking a legacy is a bad choice. We can't help you decide, make the decision that will help you sleep well but recognize its a gamble either way.
09-14-2015, 01:37 AM
#5615
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2005
Posts: 2,550
A new hire 2.5 years ago vs new hire today are very very different things.
JB has cut growth for the next 2 years to 10 airplanes a year. Accounting strictly for aircraft growth that is only 240-280 pilots or about 4%(120) per year.
One of the huge reasons upgrade drops so low at JB is our lack of reserve QOL for commuters. I'm willing to bet that changes in the next 2 years when we get our first CBA and I also willing to bet upgrade percentage jumps 5-8% when that happens. There is currently a ton of people bypassing.
The legacy retirement schedule really starts to kick into high gear over the next 5 years and continues through the 2020's when delta retires over 800 a year.
I would be willing to bet a new hire at United or Delta today, will be able to hold captain at the same time or earlier than a JB new hire today.
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09-14-2015, 04:27 AM
#5616
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 363
I know Ive only been here a little over six months, but in my experience, long call reserve only seems to exist as a figment of the imagination of a chief pilot trying to recruit people to come here. Even if they do give it, it is immediately taken away 2 hours after the noon posting of long call or they call you in the middle of the night to wake you up to still tell you your required to be there at 2 pm the next day. A few months ago, they posted it and then at 2 pm they gave me a 10 am short call start time... That makes it quite challenging to plan your commute.
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09-14-2015, 04:34 AM
#5617
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2008
Position: Left,Right, Left, Right,Right,Left, Right, Left
Posts: 3,150
I know Ive only been here a little over six months, but in my experience, long call reserve only seems to exist as a figment of the imagination of a chief pilot trying to recruit people to come here. Even if they do give it, it is immediately taken away 2 hours after the noon posting of long call or they call you in the middle of the night to wake you up to still tell you your required to be there at 2 pm the next day. A few months ago, they posted it and then at 2 pm they gave me a 10 am short call start time... That makes it quite challenging to plan your commute.
09-14-2015, 05:56 AM
#5618
What’s it doing now?
Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: 190CA
Posts: 726
A new hire 2.5 years ago vs new hire today are very very different things.
JB has cut growth for the next 2 years to 10 airplanes a year. Accounting strictly for aircraft growth that is only 240-280 pilots or about 4%(120) per year.
One of the huge reasons upgrade drops so low at JB is our lack of reserve QOL for commuters. I'm willing to bet that changes in the next 2 years when we get our first CBA and I also willing to bet upgrade percentage jumps 5-8% when that happens. There is currently a ton of people bypassing.
The legacy retirement schedule really starts to kick into high gear over the next 5 years and continues through the 2020's when delta retires over 800 a year.
I would be willing to bet a new hire at United or Delta today, will be able to hold captain at the same time or earlier than a JB new hire today.
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JB has cut growth for the next 2 years to 10 airplanes a year. Accounting strictly for aircraft growth that is only 240-280 pilots or about 4%(120) per year.
One of the huge reasons upgrade drops so low at JB is our lack of reserve QOL for commuters. I'm willing to bet that changes in the next 2 years when we get our first CBA and I also willing to bet upgrade percentage jumps 5-8% when that happens. There is currently a ton of people bypassing.
The legacy retirement schedule really starts to kick into high gear over the next 5 years and continues through the 2020's when delta retires over 800 a year.
I would be willing to bet a new hire at United or Delta today, will be able to hold captain at the same time or earlier than a JB new hire today.
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Rocketman said in year 1-2. So he has roughly 10 to 20 percent of the list behind him here. He mentioned United. Using retirement numbers at United it will take 3-6 years to regain that seniority percentage. I don't know what percentage their junior captain is, but I think he's probably a lot closer to it here than there, if it's his goal to be the bottom captain on any plane. Delta is 4-6 years to regain that seniority lost. American is 3-6 years. Yes there are things that may change; our growth, their growth or shrinkage, reserve rules, pay on small narrow bodies, etc. That's why I said it's a gamble either way. Your reasoning has as much logic as mine but we can't tell the future.
09-14-2015, 06:47 AM
#5620
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Position: 190 FO
Posts: 406
96 A320 and 90 E90 slots to be filled by March. Good news for people trying to get here.
Also I have 39.5 years left in my career and have no interest in leaving JB. Been here just over 1.5 years and live in FL.
Also I have 39.5 years left in my career and have no interest in leaving JB. Been here just over 1.5 years and live in FL.
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