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Old 11-15-2013, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by hyperboy
This is a great place to work! We are growing!!!!The crewmembers of JetBlue make this place special and will preserve our culture!


That's some funny stuff right there.



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Old 11-15-2013, 05:06 PM
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[QUOTE=bbhnpd;1520745]
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THIS!!

..." then you reap what you sew."

QUOTE]

I wish you brain surgeons could get your pithy sayings correct. Didn't you even remotely connect "reap" with the opposite end of the farming transaction, i.e., "sow", NOT sew... as in a needle pulling thread...
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Old 11-15-2013, 05:35 PM
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[QUOTE=bbhnpd;1520745]
Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
THIS!!

..." then you reap what you sew."

QUOTE]

I wish you brain surgeons could get your pithy sayings correct. Didn't you even remotely connect "reap" with the opposite end of the farming transaction, i.e., "sow", NOT sew... as in a needle pulling thread...
I think you meant, "You didn't".
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Old 11-15-2013, 06:15 PM
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Here's the deal, and I think we can all agree no matter our stance on union issues. They company stated one of their cornerstones was to attract new pilots, yet they put out a new PEA with a fuzzy language training contract ( let's call it what it is) and a pay cut for first year FOs. There's no way to spin that first years aren't getting anything but. How this is supposed to attract quality talent is WAAAY beyond me. I've already heard a LOT of guys saying they were waiting on the hiring window to open saying they're going to pass in light of this new PEA. With the attrition stated on the call yesterday, it's very likely a guy hired in the next several months would be getting above 78 hours and be off reserve. He's now going to be making less than he/she would have been this time last year. How we're supposed to beat out Delta, American and United with questionable language and cutting first year pay is a mystery to me. Maybe they plan on dazzling them with growth plans and moving target upgrade forecasts. Although, I learned a loooong time ago not to go chasing an upgrade.
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Old 11-15-2013, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Kellwolf
Here's the deal, and I think we can all agree no matter our stance on union issues. They company stated one of their cornerstones was to attract new pilots, yet they put out a new PEA with a fuzzy language training contract ( let's call it what it is) and a pay cut for first year FOs. There's no way to spin that first years aren't getting anything but. How this is supposed to attract quality talent is WAAAY beyond me. I've already heard a LOT of guys saying they were waiting on the hiring window to open saying they're going to pass in light of this new PEA. With the attrition stated on the call yesterday, it's very likely a guy hired in the next several months would be getting above 78 hours and be off reserve. He's now going to be making less than he/she would have been this time last year. How we're supposed to beat out Delta, American and United with questionable language and cutting first year pay is a mystery to me. Maybe they plan on dazzling them with growth plans and moving target upgrade forecasts. Although, I learned a loooong time ago not to go chasing an upgrade.
The problem is its not just the non-compete clause. The whole thing is littered with "muddy language" that no one should sign until its fixed. We waited this long for it, I'll wait an extra month to get that done. If I even sign that is.
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Old 11-15-2013, 07:00 PM
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I think you meant, "You didn't".
Good catch
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Old 11-15-2013, 07:33 PM
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I guess we will see how many don't sign.......Bets?
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Old 11-15-2013, 07:42 PM
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From what I'm hearing cards are being turned in overwhelmingly in favor of unionization. Look for it around the first of the year.
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Old 11-16-2013, 05:03 AM
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We need to have the drive now while everything is fresh and on the minds of everyone. Wait 2-3 months and everyone starts to calm back down and soon forgets. Lets get it going!
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Originally Posted by Kellwolf
Here's the deal, and I think we can all agree no matter our stance on union issues. They company stated one of their cornerstones was to attract new pilots, yet they put out a new PEA with a fuzzy language training contract ( let's call it what it is) and a pay cut for first year FOs. There's no way to spin that first years aren't getting anything but. How this is supposed to attract quality talent is WAAAY beyond me. I've already heard a LOT of guys saying they were waiting on the hiring window to open saying they're going to pass in light of this new PEA. With the attrition stated on the call yesterday, it's very likely a guy hired in the next several months would be getting above 78 hours and be off reserve. He's now going to be making less than he/she would have been this time last year. How we're supposed to beat out Delta, American and United with questionable language and cutting first year pay is a mystery to me. Maybe they plan on dazzling them with growth plans and moving target upgrade forecasts. Although, I learned a loooong time ago not to go chasing an upgrade.
Did they actually cut the hourly rate for first year, or are you saying first year dudes are getting a pay cut because flying over 78 hrs with no premium?
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