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Old 11-14-2013, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
Did the mention who they were trying to target with the non-compete? Who is it directed towards? Not every pilot who leaves, because - for example - an Eagle pilot comes to JetBlue and then leaves to go to Delta or SWA - if I'm reading the non compete correctly that is permissible.

Or an I missing something?

Yes Zap you can go to Southwest
So an Eagle pilot comes here and leaves at 1.5 years to go to American, he would be the guy they could go after.
I think the fact that none of us even really knew or cared about it before speaks volumes of the company's intent to use it.
But Rob did say in a worst case they could.
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Old 11-14-2013, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by cmesoar
On call right now. To all at JetBlue and those that are looking to come here, Please get your cards in when u can. Please..
Ah freakin men.

I know you have been on board before buts its nice to hear some urgency from a lot of people.

It's time! Past time!
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Old 11-14-2013, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
Did the mention who they were trying to target with the non-compete? Who is it directed towards? Not every pilot who leaves, because - for example - an Eagle pilot comes to JetBlue and then leaves to go to Delta or SWA - if I'm reading the non compete correctly that is permissible.

Or an I missing something?
Once again 2 things that make this nothing to worry about. 1st it is illegal (if you are forced to sign a training contract as terms of your employment)in most states, defenatly New York, Mass and California. Florida is the only state where this clause may be legal. 2nd there is no monetary value to the training in your PEA. It is a scare tactic to make you think twice before leaving. If we loose 76 next year we won't be parking airplanes if we loose 276 that might be a different story.

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Old 11-14-2013, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Climbto450
Once again 2 things that make this nothing to worry about. 1st it is illegal (if you are forced to sign a training contract as terms of your employment)in most states, defenatly New York, Mass and California. Florida is the only state where this clause may be legal. 2nd there is no monetary value to the training in your PEA. It is a scare tactic to make you think twice before leaving. If we loose 76 next year we won't be parking airplanes if we loose 276 that might be a different story.
Convenient this is in there then

"7. This Non-compete shall be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of the State of Florida, without regard to its conflict of laws".
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Old 11-14-2013, 07:18 PM
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Loose - not secure. Not tightened.
Lose - to no longer possess.

If you can't learn the basics of the English language, how do you expect anyone, particularly airline management, to take you seriously?
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Old 11-14-2013, 07:23 PM
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I've never been in a union.
My only direct experience with unions has been dealing with them in various capacities and negotiating from the other side of the table - sometimes friendly, sometimes not.
I've never wanted to be in a union.
I still don't want to be in a union.
I don't believe a union will solve everything.
I believe if we go union we'll be locked up in this contract for at least the next 3 years with no further raises or improvements in benefits or work rules.
I'm happy in this job. Very happy.

I've sent my card in.
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Old 11-14-2013, 08:09 PM
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Great maybe we can take concessions like the last 2 ALPA carriers did recently?!
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Old 11-14-2013, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by hyperboy
Great maybe we can take concessions like the last 2 ALPA carriers did recently?!
Ya ok. What ALPA mainline carrier has taken concessions "recently"?
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Old 11-14-2013, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by hyperboy
Great maybe we can take concessions like the last 2 ALPA carriers did recently?!
Can you please give us all a scenario, where an arbitrator would impose a concessionary contract on JB pilots in the current environment?
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Old 11-15-2013, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Sig178
Convenient this is in there then

"7. This Non-compete shall be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of the State of Florida, without regard to its conflict of laws".
Notice it is the blue states that won't let management FU€£ you. But the red one sure will.
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