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#1471
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: Rebuilding the career
Posts: 169
I didn't want to take the thread off topic but I'll go ahead and ask my question anyway...
Can someone describe the differences between the High, Core, and Low short - term disability plans?
Can someone describe the differences between the High, Core, and Low short - term disability plans?
#1473
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: Rebuilding the career
Posts: 169
And my next question is "How do you crack the code to get an interview? ". Haven't figured that one out yet. Are most guys getting interviews going to job fairs? Or are internal recs the tipping point?
#1475
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Joined APC: Feb 2013
Posts: 13
Likeabat, you are not alone in wondering this. I attended the WAI conference, and Vets in Blue. I also have a LOR from a line pilot. Still haven't heard anything yet. My background is 121 PIC and Mil Heavy. Wondering what else it takes….
#1476
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Joined APC: Dec 2010
Posts: 524
I'm curious as to what people think is a valid alternative.
We're not where we should be on heath care, but I hear a lot of people say "It sucks" but then don't have an idea of what it should look like. More company contribution on premiums? That won't change your out of pocket expense outside of premiums, though. Maybe more options, I guess. A lot of guys knee jerk and say "What Delta has," but Delta has several options to choose from. One of which is pretty close to what we have.
If you game the system (ie pay attention to Healthy Rewards stuff and keep track of your claims), it's not nearly the horrific system guys say it is. If guys are running up bills of over $10k, they're either going out of network (which getting better insurance won't fix as ALL insurance ding you on that), they're including their premiums in the figure (which again, all insurance carriers charge premiums, and the better it is the higher the premium) or they really don't know and are just complaining.
I've gotten to know our health care plan QUITE well over the past year. I have to say, it's not too bad. We hit our max out of pocket last year, and we've already hit it this year. I'm not having to rob banks to pay for everything. I even hit the health care markets just to see if I could beat what we had with something else thanks to the ACA. Nope. Everything there cost more than what I had.
So, I guess my question to everyone that complains about the health care is what's your solution?
We're not where we should be on heath care, but I hear a lot of people say "It sucks" but then don't have an idea of what it should look like. More company contribution on premiums? That won't change your out of pocket expense outside of premiums, though. Maybe more options, I guess. A lot of guys knee jerk and say "What Delta has," but Delta has several options to choose from. One of which is pretty close to what we have.
If you game the system (ie pay attention to Healthy Rewards stuff and keep track of your claims), it's not nearly the horrific system guys say it is. If guys are running up bills of over $10k, they're either going out of network (which getting better insurance won't fix as ALL insurance ding you on that), they're including their premiums in the figure (which again, all insurance carriers charge premiums, and the better it is the higher the premium) or they really don't know and are just complaining.
I've gotten to know our health care plan QUITE well over the past year. I have to say, it's not too bad. We hit our max out of pocket last year, and we've already hit it this year. I'm not having to rob banks to pay for everything. I even hit the health care markets just to see if I could beat what we had with something else thanks to the ACA. Nope. Everything there cost more than what I had.
So, I guess my question to everyone that complains about the health care is what's your solution?
#1477
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Joined APC: Jun 2009
Position: A320 FO
Posts: 382
To give B6 healthcare a comparison. I recently left B6 for UAL. UAL offers a plan called Aetna EPO Bronze which was very similar to the Blue plan (the plan I was enrolled in). Rough numbers was 3000 deductible max out of pocket was ~9k which is close to the B6 plan. Just my wife and I. I paid ~$200/mo at B6, if I or my wife was a smoker I would have had a "penalty" of $80 at B6 (my numbers are off by a few bucks for B6 because it's been 18 months since the last time I took part in open enrollment at B6). At UAL it ~$105 and then we got credit of $96 per month "credit"....so $9 out of pocket verses 200. (I was interested in the difference I opted for different coverage)
Also having a baby next week (well the wife). So far I have paid 220/mo for coverage (250 deductible /1500 max out of pocket) and we have paid ~$40 for a shot bc my wife blood type is negative. Everything else covered. B6 I would have paid ~100 a month for dr visits.
That's why people complain about the coverage so much.
Also having a baby next week (well the wife). So far I have paid 220/mo for coverage (250 deductible /1500 max out of pocket) and we have paid ~$40 for a shot bc my wife blood type is negative. Everything else covered. B6 I would have paid ~100 a month for dr visits.
That's why people complain about the coverage so much.
#1478
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Joined APC: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,341
To give B6 healthcare a comparison. I recently left B6 for UAL. UAL offers a plan called Aetna EPO Bronze which was very similar to the Blue plan (the plan I was enrolled in). Rough numbers was 3000 deductible max out of pocket was ~9k which is close to the B6 plan. Just my wife and I. I paid ~$200/mo at B6, if I or my wife was a smoker I would have had a "penalty" of $80 at B6 (my numbers are off by a few bucks for B6 because it's been 18 months since the last time I took part in open enrollment at B6). At UAL it ~$105 and then we got credit of $96 per month "credit"....so $9 out of pocket verses 200. (I was interested in the difference I opted for different coverage)
Also having a baby next week (well the wife). So far I have paid 220/mo for coverage (250 deductible /1500 max out of pocket) and we have paid ~$40 for a shot bc my wife blood type is negative. Everything else covered. B6 I would have paid ~100 a month for dr visits.
That's why people complain about the coverage so much.
Also having a baby next week (well the wife). So far I have paid 220/mo for coverage (250 deductible /1500 max out of pocket) and we have paid ~$40 for a shot bc my wife blood type is negative. Everything else covered. B6 I would have paid ~100 a month for dr visits.
That's why people complain about the coverage so much.
#1479
Obamacare doesn't require employers to pass on any set amount of premiums to the employees. You can see JetBlue is responsible for setting the premiums high simply by acknowledging the fact that other airlines, all of which are subject to the same ObamaCare laws, have not done so. The company desperately wants to make you think the rates are out of their hands, but they absolutely have a choice as to how much of the premiums to cover, and how much to pass along to the employee. There is also no provision in the law - again, as evidenced by the fact that other companies haven't all made the same changes - that required JetBlue to stop offering real PPO plans, and to instead offer only high-detuctible, high OOP plans.
#1480
There is a lot of very inaccurate info in your post. To say that it's not that bad is the understatement of the year. I'm gonna guess you weren't here before we got this new plan, but my max OOP wasn't near $13k. Delta and SWA have a plan very similar to ours, the difference? They pay about $11/mo for their premiums instead of my $304, plus they have OPTIONS to give guys a low deductible PPO that won't hurt guys who have chronic health problems in their family. I usually like your posts but this is way off mark and btw you can easily go past $10k in-network as we have done, so even with healthy rewards and seed money (that's not guaranteed) my max OOP will be about $11,000. Plus I am tired having to fight almost every medical bill I get to have insurance pay it, even stuff covered 100% like routine physicals they don't want to pay unless you jump through hoops. It wasn't like that a few years ago. There have been options presented by the PVC like a PPO, but since it was money related it was shot down. So yes it's as bad as people say, but hey it better than Pinnacle right?
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