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08-19-2023, 07:14 AM
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Bluedriver said it best. Company is playing chess while we’re playing patty cake. I expect more of the same with the JCBA.
08-19-2023, 07:19 AM
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Why? Not only is this the best negotiating climate for all pilot unions for decades, but management NEEDS the JCBA done in a timely manner. It’s not like the usual situation where management benefits by dragging out an old contract.
08-19-2023, 07:36 AM
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Because we have too many pilots who are satisfied with making more than their neighbor who works at Starbucks! It is entirely up to the NC/MEC. Whatever they present for a vote will pass. I’ve said it before, but it needs repeated. The NC/MEC needs to protect us from ourselves. Neither one of our most recent extensions should’ve passed, but they did.
08-19-2023, 07:59 AM
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Joined APC: Jul 2023
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Because we have too many pilots who are satisfied with making more than their neighbor who works at Starbucks! It is entirely up to the NC/MEC. Whatever they present for a vote will pass. I’ve said it before, but it needs repeated. The NC/MEC needs to protect us from ourselves. Neither one of our most recent extensions should’ve passed, but they did.
08-19-2023, 11:55 AM
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I agree with everything you just said…barring an economic meltdown before we start negotiating. I’ve just learned to temper my expectations here. Chess…patty cake. I hope they prove me wrong.
08-19-2023, 04:56 PM
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2007
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Disagree completely. I voted no for that 3% BS, but I did vote yes for the most recent pay raises. That said, a JCBA for a combined carrier needs to be directly competitive with the CBA's of the big 3, and *because* I voted yes on the last one, I'm now in a better position to be able to play hardball on the next one. Have a little more faith in your coworkers.
08-19-2023, 05:03 PM
The REAL Bluedriver
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08-19-2023, 07:23 PM
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08-20-2023, 04:22 AM
The REAL Bluedriver
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It was written in black and white. But it was in a document the company controlled, because we had not yet completed our first CBA.
08-20-2023, 08:40 AM
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The PEA was basically an agreement between said pilot and the company. You agreed to work on stated terms or you can take a hike, and said terms are subject to change exclusively at the company’s option when ever they felt like it.
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