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Old 08-21-2022, 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Shotsfired
Sincere apologies, I wasn’t “born” on the forums, like you… your highness. The point still stands, I don’t understand why anyone would choose B6. Other than it being a gateway program for the legacy carriers.
I can think of many. When you get done with your CFI I’ll fill you in.
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Old 08-21-2022, 04:52 AM
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Not everyone has wet dreams about Atlanta
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Old 08-21-2022, 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Shotsfired
Did I miss the mention of what is turning out to be a seven year upgrade time? Delta has a year… One year…. By far the worst regional out there…lol
It's almost like there is a reason Delta NB CA goes so junior....
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Old 08-21-2022, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
A lot to unpack here. I'm going to assume you are local to JFK since you showed a desire for 1-2day trips?

1. It is difficult to know what the future holds for the 190 bases (well, except that they will disappear over the next few years). 1st yr pay is the same regardless of which plane you fly. I would still recommend JFK 190. There will be premium pay opportunities on all fleets. I dont think JFK 190 movement will be that much different than the 320, but you will have the opportunity to fly more 1-2 day trips vs the 320.

2. Junior lineholder for the JFK 320 and 190 in September were about the same seniority and had DOHs in 12/21 and 1/22 respectively.

3. 2day trips are very common for junior line holders on JFK 190, you can forget about it on the JFK 320 for a very long time. Generally the trips aren't productive. 10hr 2day trips, 15hr 3day, 20hr 4day, etc. 190 has more 3-4leg days and sits. 320 is usually 1-2 legs with minimal sit time. Overnights generally suck on the 190. They are shorter (10-15hrs) and crappy cities. 320 you'll spend a lot of time in the Dominican Republic in the middle of the night. Redeyes on the 320 suck, 190 doesn't do that sort of thing.

4. Reserve isn't like it is at the regionals, but you'll probably block 60ish hours during busy months and 30-40 during slower months. We have short call (2.5hr callout) and long call (14hr callout) which you bid for on a monthly basis. I'd expect to be gone 75% of the RSV days on your schedule.

5. Yes, 70hr min guar for line, 75 for RSV.

Overall, I would recommend JFK 190, and bid RSV if you dont want to work as much. There are opportunities to pick up premium (150%) or VDA (200%) flying on days off. Stick on the 190 for 1-2 yrs then bid over to the 320.
thanks for the reply!

is there not as much opportunity for premium flying / VDA on the 320 jfk?

Also, does the 320SQ do regular 320 flying? I think I read on reserve you can do regular 320 flying.

My initial inclination was to bid 190, especially since I’m typed on the 175, and then bid the 320 after a year or two like you suggested. But I’d love to fly the bus and just want to weigh my options !

For background I live in NY about 45 mins from JFK. Currently in phase 2 of the hiring process.
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Old 08-21-2022, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Jab359
thanks for the reply!

is there not as much opportunity for premium flying / VDA on the 320 jfk?

Also, does the 320SQ do regular 320 flying? I think I read on reserve you can do regular 320 flying.

My initial inclination was to bid 190, especially since I’m typed on the 175, and then bid the 320 after a year or two like you suggested. But I’d love to fly the bus and just want to weigh my options !

For background I live in NY about 45 mins from JFK. Currently in phase 2 of the hiring process.
I would go for the 320 in JFK if available. Largest base at JetBlue by far. Most varied flying in the system.
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Old 08-21-2022, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Jab359
thanks for the reply!

is there not as much opportunity for premium flying / VDA on the 320 jfk?

Also, does the 320SQ do regular 320 flying? I think I read on reserve you can do regular 320 flying.

My initial inclination was to bid 190, especially since I’m typed on the 175, and then bid the 320 after a year or two like you suggested. But I’d love to fly the bus and just want to weigh my options !

For background I live in NY about 45 mins from JFK. Currently in phase 2 of the hiring process.
There is a lot of VDA/premium on all fleets. VDA is offered in seniority order, premium is whoever is fastest picking it up from flica.

320SQ schedules are all just 3day trips back and forth to London paying about 15-17hrs. Not that great for productivity. As a 320SQ reserve pilot they can pull you to fly other domestic trips. 320SQ lineholders can drop London trips and pick up domestic flying, assuming the reserve staffing allows the drop (BIG assumption, staffing levels suck).

the main draw of the 190 would be a lot more 1-2day trips. You will have a much harder time getting that on the 320.
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Old 08-21-2022, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Jab359
thanks for the reply!

is there not as much opportunity for premium flying / VDA on the 320 jfk?

Also, does the 320SQ do regular 320 flying? I think I read on reserve you can do regular 320 flying.

My initial inclination was to bid 190, especially since I’m typed on the 175, and then bid the 320 after a year or two like you suggested. But I’d love to fly the bus and just want to weigh my options !

For background I live in NY about 45 mins from JFK. Currently in phase 2 of the hiring process.
BOS SQ Captain here, started as 190 FO in JFK for my first 3 years. Part commuter, part local-ish (drive or NJT train to Jersey) when I started dating my wife. I’ve flown recently with 2 newhires on the BOS SQ trip, both called out on reserve for the SO seat. Both loved the trip but are bidding out on this System Bid, because honestly sending a NH to the SQ in either base is pretty lousy. Sure the plane is new and shiny and the layover fun, but it’s basically a double pink eye, and you get zero stick time, zero real opportunity to actually learn the rest of the operation or get comfortable with the airplane unless/until you get called out on a domestic reserve trip, which is hit or miss. Yes, you can get called for regular 320 flying on reserve, not sure how often that’s happening honestly but would be more often as a newhire while they consolidate you.

The problem with VDA for you is that it’s seniority based, which means you won’t usually see it as a newhire. While premium is first come first-serve, you have to actually be off when it’s offered, which is mostly weekends which you’ll already be working as a newbie.

I’d go 190 JFK in a heartbeat in your shoes. Same pay first year, same type, no-brainer NE/Mid-Atlantic flying similar to what you are used to, then after your one-year seat lock is up you can bid the ‘Bus and will honestly be flying that or the 220 the rest of your JetBlue career (wide body rumors aside, which have been going on since before I was hired 15 years ago….).
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Old 08-21-2022, 03:01 PM
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Received my Phase 2 email 2 days ago! Super stoked. Does anyone that's come on board recently remember how long it takes for them to send the background check/drug screen email after receiving the Phase 2 email? I saw in the Phase 2 email that once you receive the drug screen email you have 7 days to get it done. Somewhat worried as I'm about to head out on a 9 day work trip tomorrow morning, and I'd hate to get it in the next couple days where that 7 day window would end before I get home. Previous employers have done my drug screens during the interview process, so I wasn't worried about having a trip scheduled right after my interview.
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Old 08-21-2022, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Shotsfired
Sincere apologies, I wasn’t “born” on the forums, like you… your highness. The point still stands, I don’t understand why anyone would choose B6. Other than it being a gateway program for the legacy carriers.
Nope, but even you can’t deny you were just born literally yesterday on these forms (or at least this account was)… go throw your grenades somewhere else! Plenty of reasons folks come and stay here.

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Old 08-22-2022, 01:14 PM
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Applied in April, been updating weekly, multiple internals. Finally, today, I finally heard something back. JB sent me the pilot addendum. I’ve got no training or check ride failures so should be easy enough to fill out and send back.

My question is how long after receiving the addendum did you get an interview date? What is the process like after filling it out?

TIA
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