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Old 03-25-2020, 09:18 AM
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Hello all, I had my “video” interview 2 days ago.. I got all dressed up and it ended up being purely aural.. several basic questions, I’ll work on writing those down later.

No word yet but I guess the next step is the interview invite or the tbnt... I didn’t figure anyone was hiring right now but I sure was glad to get the email! Anyone here have any further insight?
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Old 03-25-2020, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Clearbelow12000
Hello all, I had my “video” interview 2 days ago.. I got all dressed up and it ended up being purely aural.. several basic questions, I’ll work on writing those down later.

No word yet but I guess the next step is the interview invite or the tbnt... I didn’t figure anyone was hiring right now but I sure was glad to get the email! Anyone here have any further insight?
They're sending the new hires home right now... So I'd say you've got time.

Sorry for all involved right now. Times are crazy. I've lost my share of aviation jobs. it'll get better. just get through it.
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Old 03-25-2020, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jamesholzhauer
We could have at least given them the option to show up, get a seniority number, do indoc, get on the benefits timeline, but stay on training pay until they are trained, with an unknown timeline for training, or given them the option to move their class date to the next class since this was done inside of 2 weeks...which is unacceptable, unprofessional, and the least they could have done was give them the option.

Conversely, I know of a JB guy going to delta soon. He talked to his CP about rescinding his resignation (the final date was still a week or so out). CP said sorry, prob can’t get your job back. So we can axe mutually agreed upon classes 5 days out but can’t allow our guys to rescind resignations over a week out? Disgusting and hypocritical. Good thing Delta and AA have continued to honor their class dates for those with CJOs. That’s the honorable thing to do, unlike JB and UAL canceling inside of 2 weeks.

For anyone who leaves JetBlue, you should probably give no more than 5 days notice, because that’s effectively what they just did to our 3/18 newhires and the new standard they set for themselves. Completely unprofessional and sad. And hyperboy, I hope to God you pushed back on whoever's decision that was, because it is disgusting, and left lasting damage to our reputation.
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Old 03-27-2020, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
They're sending the new hires home right now... So I'd say you've got time.
I’ll try to keep this unemotional and factual but being ****ed off doesn’t even begin to cover it. I was grateful for the chance/offer but....

You've got plenty of time. I’m a recent new hire sent home in the middle of training. Others in training had it worse than me, such as having their training cancelled within hours of their LOE ride brief. However, what we all have in common is that we are being sent home with no time line of a return date other than “when the planes start flying again and the passengers come back.” We are being kept on training pay with benefits. It’s better than nothing sure but is it really? We can’t file for unemployment which would pay us more. Also, they made this decision knowing that even if we could “flow back” to our much better paying and relatively senior position at our last jobs, those doors were closed because either the companies are gone or are furloughing. 39 of us are being held at training pay for an indefinite period to “preserve cash.” The company stated they don’t know if/when they will take bailout money because it all depends on “the strings attached.” The horrible math in public equals out to a couple million per year. I would have hoped our core values were worth more than that. There’s also no word on any longevity benefits so if we stick around we could be on training pay a very long time. We’ve been told we will keep our seniority number.

I know nothing is guaranteed and industry is very unpredictable however all of us in my class planned to get through the program and made preparations for the financial realities of training. What we didn’t plan on was getting held onto until a point that everyone knew pretty much every door was closed to then be left mostly with a crap sandwich UFN.

ALPA weighed in. They were caught of guard by this and the legal guys are looking into it but based on the RLA and the contract we are at will employees with zero protections until IOE completion.

I’m sure I will catch heat for this because that’s what APC does. I really couldn’t care less. I may be ruining my chances at JB. DOX me or whatever it’s called. I’m not planning on holding out for the call back because my family deserves better than burning through our emergency funds for this. I figured the word should get out about the #caring and #integrity occurring to preserve cash.
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Old 03-27-2020, 08:22 AM
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how much is training pay? It’s until completion of IOE?
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Old 03-27-2020, 08:29 AM
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$2000/ month. About $1100 take home in my case having a family. Regular pay starts at completion of LOE before IOE. Usually 6-8 weeks total.
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Old 03-27-2020, 08:38 AM
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$2000/ month. About $1100 take home in my case having a family. Regular pay starts at completion of LOE before IOE. Usually 6-8 weeks total.
that’s terrible man. Sorry this is happening to you and the others
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Old 03-27-2020, 08:50 AM
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Thanks. It is what it is. The company could have easily prevented this in our “unprecedented times.”
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Old 03-27-2020, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by RegionalRetread
Thanks. It is what it is. The company could have easily prevented this in our “unprecedented times.”
We do have a fund for pilots in hardship situations...it's called the Blue Pilot Fund. I'm not sure if it can help you or not but might be something looking into. It's on Hellojetblue under menu / tools / all tools. Hopefully, this thing passes soon, take care
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Old 03-27-2020, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by RegionalRetread
I’ll try to keep this unemotional and factual but being ****ed off doesn’t even begin to cover it. I was grateful for the chance/offer but....

You've got plenty of time. I’m a recent new hire sent home in the middle of training. Others in training had it worse than me, such as having their training cancelled within hours of their LOE ride brief. However, what we all have in common is that we are being sent home with no time line of a return date other than “when the planes start flying again and the passengers come back.” We are being kept on training pay with benefits. It’s better than nothing sure but is it really? We can’t file for unemployment which would pay us more. Also, they made this decision knowing that even if we could “flow back” to our much better paying and relatively senior position at our last jobs, those doors were closed because either the companies are gone or are furloughing. 39 of us are being held at training pay for an indefinite period to “preserve cash.” The company stated they don’t know if/when they will take bailout money because it all depends on “the strings attached.” The horrible math in public equals out to a couple million per year. I would have hoped our core values were worth more than that. There’s also no word on any longevity benefits so if we stick around we could be on training pay a very long time. We’ve been told we will keep our seniority number.

I know nothing is guaranteed and industry is very unpredictable however all of us in my class planned to get through the program and made preparations for the financial realities of training. What we didn’t plan on was getting held onto until a point that everyone knew pretty much every door was closed to then be left mostly with a crap sandwich UFN.

ALPA weighed in. They were caught of guard by this and the legal guys are looking into it but based on the RLA and the contract we are at will employees with zero protections until IOE completion.

I’m sure I will catch heat for this because that’s what APC does. I really couldn’t care less. I may be ruining my chances at JB. DOX me or whatever it’s called. I’m not planning on holding out for the call back because my family deserves better than burning through our emergency funds for this. I figured the word should get out about the #caring and #integrity occurring to preserve cash.
Sorry this happened man, but I don’t know if you have been following APC the last few years. This company has no values, it is literally the opposite of what they preach. Honestly I think the way people get treated here is by far the worst out of any airline that I have seen. That includes the regionals. Again, sorry this happened, and I hope you get to come back soon, but expect nothing less than this during your entire career here. We fire more people than any other airline BTW.
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