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Old 03-12-2014, 06:00 AM
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Indoc is 9 days, and boy they are long and boring days. I would recommend not bringing your spouse to indoc unless they really want to. I'd bring them to Florida and let them go to Disney world. After the suck of indoc, you may or may not get a break of up to two weeks.

The actual training was about 20 days or so and is both awesome training and very easy. You begin with some basic general knowledge classes in the systems phase that culminates in a 20-30 minute ground eval. You do about 6 rides in a paper trainer doing basic procedures like flows and call outs. Huge learning curve, and the trainer flies like crap, but the building block approach they use is phenomenal.

You then get in a real sim and do more traditional stuff like V1 cuts and approaches. The sim is great, but it comes so fast you're "proficient" before you know what you're doing.

Finally the last phase is just flying a simple mission that has some things go wrong. You will probably be paired with an FO which makes it tough because you have to know Captain stuff too (even though they say you don't) or you will screw your partner up.

While some people struggle and a few fail out, other than indoc which isn't entirely their fault, it is by far the best, most efficient, and easiest training I have ever received (mil heavy background).
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Old 03-12-2014, 06:06 AM
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Hiring update.

I'm a regional guy. Applied in the DEC 2013 window with 3000 hours TT, 2000 jet, 950 prop PIC and no Captain time.

I had an interview set up for next week; the March 19th session in NYC. I currently have 3200 hours TT. Last night I got an email from my recruiter saying that my interview is cancelled. It said I don't meet competitive minimums of 3500+ hours TT. I was told to email him when I get to 3500 hours and to reapply in the new requisition which is planned to post in July.

I know some earlier posts said some guys were having a tough time getting through training. Maybe this is the fallout? I don't know. I'm deflated right now as jetBlue is my airline of choice. Like the recruiter said, I'll just keep plugging away.

Thought this would be some good info for those waiting to hear back from B6 if you're under 3500 hours TT.
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Old 03-12-2014, 06:14 AM
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Old 03-12-2014, 06:16 AM
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Hiring update.

I'm a regional guy. Applied in the DEC 2013 window with 3000 hours TT, 2000 jet, 950 prop PIC and no Captain time.

I had an interview set up for next week; the March 19th session in NYC. I currently have 3200 hours TT. Last night I got an email from my recruiter saying that my interview is cancelled. It said I don't meet competitive minimums of 3500+ hours TT. I was told to email him when I get to 3500 hours and to reapply in the new requisition which is planned to post in July.

I know some earlier posts said some guys were having a tough time getting through training. Maybe this is the fallout? I don't know. I'm deflated right now as jetBlue is my airline of choice. Like the recruiter said, I'll just keep plugging away.

Thought this would be some good info for those waiting to hear back from B6 if you're under 3500 hours TT.

Just hang in there.
Get the hours and you will get the interview.
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Old 03-12-2014, 06:17 AM
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Old 03-12-2014, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by mike12345
Indoc is 9 days, and boy they are long and boring days. I would recommend not bringing your spouse to indoc unless they really want to. I'd bring them to Florida and let them go to Disney world. After the suck of indoc, you may or may not get a break of up to two weeks.

The actual training was about 20 days or so and is both awesome training and very easy. You begin with some basic general knowledge classes in the systems phase that culminates in a 20-30 minute ground eval. You do about 6 rides in a paper trainer doing basic procedures like flows and call outs. Huge learning curve, and the trainer flies like crap, but the building block approach they use is phenomenal.

You then get in a real sim and do more traditional stuff like V1 cuts and approaches. The sim is great, but it comes so fast you're "proficient" before you know what you're doing.

Finally the last phase is just flying a simple mission that has some things go wrong. You will probably be paired with an FO which makes it tough because you have to know Captain stuff too (even though they say you don't) or you will screw your partner up.

While some people struggle and a few fail out, other than indoc which isn't entirely their fault, it is by far the best, most efficient, and easiest training I have ever received (mil heavy background).

This is a great synopsis. Thank you.

Follow up:

Where is Indoc? In Orlando as well or NYC?

If I'm reading this correctly, Indoc is 9 days, a/c specific is 20ish days so it could be zero to typed (and back home) in a month?

Any idea how long the wait is right now from type ride to start of IOE?

Thanks!
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Old 03-12-2014, 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by LakeshoreFlyer
Hiring update.

I'm a regional guy. Applied in the DEC 2013 window with 3000 hours TT, 2000 jet, 950 prop PIC and no Captain time.

I had an interview set up for next week; the March 19th session in NYC. I currently have 3200 hours TT. Last night I got an email from my recruiter saying that my interview is cancelled. It said I don't meet competitive minimums of 3500+ hours TT. I was told to email him when I get to 3500 hours and to reapply in the new requisition which is planned to post in July.

I know some earlier posts said some guys were having a tough time getting through training. Maybe this is the fallout? I don't know. I'm deflated right now as jetBlue is my airline of choice. Like the recruiter said, I'll just keep plugging away.

Thought this would be some good info for those waiting to hear back from B6 if you're under 3500 hours TT.

Wow great insight! Thanks!

I'm at 3260 TT myself, so pretty much the exact same as you and haven't heard anything from JetBlue yet.

If you don't mind me asking.... Did you have any internal recs or one of those blue darts? Did you go to a job fair?

Good luck!
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Old 03-12-2014, 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by mike12345
Indoc is 9 days, and boy they are long and boring days. I would recommend not bringing your spouse to indoc unless they really want to. I'd bring them to Florida and let them go to Disney world. After the suck of indoc, you may or may not get a break of up to two weeks.

The actual training was about 20 days or so and is both awesome training and very easy. You begin with some basic general knowledge classes in the systems phase that culminates in a 20-30 minute ground eval. You do about 6 rides in a paper trainer doing basic procedures like flows and call outs. Huge learning curve, and the trainer flies like crap, but the building block approach they use is phenomenal.

You then get in a real sim and do more traditional stuff like V1 cuts and approaches. The sim is great, but it comes so fast you're "proficient" before you know what you're doing.

Finally the last phase is just flying a simple mission that has some things go wrong. You will probably be paired with an FO which makes it tough because you have to know Captain stuff too (even though they say you don't) or you will screw your partner up.

While some people struggle and a few fail out, other than indoc which isn't entirely their fault, it is by far the best, most efficient, and easiest training I have ever received (mil heavy background).
Mike, thanks for taking the time to fill us "newbies" in with your experience. I'm in phase II and am looking to get as much info about what to expect. Your description paints a fairly clear picture of what to expect.

Do they give a few days off during training if we want to head home to see our wife and kids or are we down there for a month? It's not a big deal, but would be nice for planning purposes.

Thanks again
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Old 03-12-2014, 06:51 AM
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You mention "bringing wife to indoc". I saw some mention of that as a company function. True?
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Old 03-12-2014, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by howard500
Wow great insight! Thanks!

I'm at 3260 TT myself, so pretty much the exact same as you and haven't heard anything from JetBlue yet.

If you don't mind me asking.... Did you have any internal recs or one of those blue darts? Did you go to a job fair?

Good luck!
Hi Howard. Yes, I have three internal recs. No blue dart. I went to the WAI conference last week and everyone I spoke to said they were looking forward to meeting me on the 19th.

One of my internal recs said that he asked a recruiter about hiring minimums last month and the response was '1501 hours is good to go'. I'm a little in the dark as to what happened. Did the minimums change? Was it a single recruiters decision? Was it something else on my app that I don't know about? I really have no idea. It's puzzling. I'm not in a position to question and I'm not owed anything by JB so I just have to roll with it.

Like pilotpayne said, I will hang in there and keep moving forward. I hope to see you there someday.
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