jetBlue Hiring
01-05-2019, 07:02 PM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2012
Posts: 1,099
Basically do what you can to maintain the culture for generations to come. Culture is everything. The airline is founded on culture. The airline does care and you need to take pride in working here.
This is the crap forced down a jetblue Pilots throat day in and day out. Meanwhile you are last in on-time performance, schedules are gutted and intentionally fatiguing forcing you to call in fatigued or fly unsafe, the airline is blaming pilots for delays and cancellations, you are forced to clean airplanes in order to maintain your benefits, forced to remain until passengers deplane because their metrics show it makes the passengers happy.
This is the jetblue reality. There is no airline like jetblue. This cult BS is truly something else.
A few years back the airline hired the MWW company to market the anti-union propaganda. It worked and the marketing company won awards for selling the “direct relationship” which is code for no union and arbitrary changes at will. The MWW company admitted it didn’t matter what the message was but rather the repetition of said massage would ultimately become reality. Given this is the dumbest pilot group out there most believed it and here we are. Swiss cheese contract with a devious management always 2 steps ahead.
People need to truly understand what they are getting into when they apply here. This is not a typical airline. Jetblue expects you to fall on the sword for this place while doing the bare minimum to support you. Ask around. Ask how bad the schedules are, how fatiguing they are, how reserved are treated, how perpetually understaffed jetblue is. Ask Jwtblue who’s to blame for all this and the company blames the pilot.
This is the crap forced down a jetblue Pilots throat day in and day out. Meanwhile you are last in on-time performance, schedules are gutted and intentionally fatiguing forcing you to call in fatigued or fly unsafe, the airline is blaming pilots for delays and cancellations, you are forced to clean airplanes in order to maintain your benefits, forced to remain until passengers deplane because their metrics show it makes the passengers happy.
This is the jetblue reality. There is no airline like jetblue. This cult BS is truly something else.
A few years back the airline hired the MWW company to market the anti-union propaganda. It worked and the marketing company won awards for selling the “direct relationship” which is code for no union and arbitrary changes at will. The MWW company admitted it didn’t matter what the message was but rather the repetition of said massage would ultimately become reality. Given this is the dumbest pilot group out there most believed it and here we are. Swiss cheese contract with a devious management always 2 steps ahead.
People need to truly understand what they are getting into when they apply here. This is not a typical airline. Jetblue expects you to fall on the sword for this place while doing the bare minimum to support you. Ask around. Ask how bad the schedules are, how fatiguing they are, how reserved are treated, how perpetually understaffed jetblue is. Ask Jwtblue who’s to blame for all this and the company blames the pilot.
Last edited by benzoate; 01-05-2019 at 07:14 PM.
01-05-2019, 08:24 PM
Covfefe
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 3,001
Never once in the military or civilian world have I seen a “leader” of an organization with a toxic culture admit that the culture is toxic, but then say culture does not come from the top and then pass the blame to the individuals in the organization. I’ve never seen a leader fail to own the shortcomings (especially culture related) within his or her purview. That is...until this email. That’s like a commander telling his unit that they are the reason for the toxic command climate in a toxic unit. The culture/climate is always set by the leadership. I guess not here.
01-06-2019, 10:54 AM
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,920
Never once in the military or civilian world have I seen a “leader” of an organization with a toxic culture admit that the culture is toxic, but then say culture does not come from the top and then pass the blame to the individuals in the organization. I’ve never seen a leader fail to own the shortcomings (especially culture related) within his or her purview. That is...until this email. That’s like a commander telling his unit that they are the reason for the toxic command climate in a toxic unit. The culture/climate is always set by the leadership. I guess not here.
01-06-2019, 10:54 AM
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,920
Basically do what you can to maintain the culture for generations to come. Culture is everything. The airline is founded on culture. The airline does care and you need to take pride in working here.
This is the crap forced down a jetblue Pilots throat day in and day out. Meanwhile you are last in on-time performance, schedules are gutted and intentionally fatiguing forcing you to call in fatigued or fly unsafe, the airline is blaming pilots for delays and cancellations, you are forced to clean airplanes in order to maintain your benefits, forced to remain until passengers deplane because their metrics show it makes the passengers happy.
This is the jetblue reality. There is no airline like jetblue. This cult BS is truly something else.
A few years back the airline hired the MWW company to market the anti-union propaganda. It worked and the marketing company won awards for selling the “direct relationship” which is code for no union and arbitrary changes at will. The MWW company admitted it didn’t matter what the message was but rather the repetition of said massage would ultimately become reality. Given this is the dumbest pilot group out there most believed it and here we are. Swiss cheese contract with a devious management always 2 steps ahead.
People need to truly understand what they are getting into when they apply here. This is not a typical airline. Jetblue expects you to fall on the sword for this place while doing the bare minimum to support you. Ask around. Ask how bad the schedules are, how fatiguing they are, how reserved are treated, how perpetually understaffed jetblue is. Ask Jwtblue who’s to blame for all this and the company blames the pilot.
This is the crap forced down a jetblue Pilots throat day in and day out. Meanwhile you are last in on-time performance, schedules are gutted and intentionally fatiguing forcing you to call in fatigued or fly unsafe, the airline is blaming pilots for delays and cancellations, you are forced to clean airplanes in order to maintain your benefits, forced to remain until passengers deplane because their metrics show it makes the passengers happy.
This is the jetblue reality. There is no airline like jetblue. This cult BS is truly something else.
A few years back the airline hired the MWW company to market the anti-union propaganda. It worked and the marketing company won awards for selling the “direct relationship” which is code for no union and arbitrary changes at will. The MWW company admitted it didn’t matter what the message was but rather the repetition of said massage would ultimately become reality. Given this is the dumbest pilot group out there most believed it and here we are. Swiss cheese contract with a devious management always 2 steps ahead.
People need to truly understand what they are getting into when they apply here. This is not a typical airline. Jetblue expects you to fall on the sword for this place while doing the bare minimum to support you. Ask around. Ask how bad the schedules are, how fatiguing they are, how reserved are treated, how perpetually understaffed jetblue is. Ask Jwtblue who’s to blame for all this and the company blames the pilot.
01-08-2019, 08:35 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2013
Position: Piloto
Posts: 323
This is what i was told a while back. Not sure if has changed too much or not, but here you go. Best of luck to you
1. Please conduct a full self-resume review. Please touch on the reasone for leaving each employer, including lateral moves and termination.
2. Of the 5 core values besides safety, which one would your family and friends say best describes you?
3. If you could change one thing about your role and/or your company, what would it be?
4. Tell us about a time you overcame an obsticle on the job.
5. How many flight hours do you have in the past 12 months
6. Have you ever had ANY type of training or checkride failures?
7. Have you ever had any accidents, incidents or violations? If so what were the circumstances and time frame?
1. Please conduct a full self-resume review. Please touch on the reasone for leaving each employer, including lateral moves and termination.
2. Of the 5 core values besides safety, which one would your family and friends say best describes you?
3. If you could change one thing about your role and/or your company, what would it be?
4. Tell us about a time you overcame an obsticle on the job.
5. How many flight hours do you have in the past 12 months
6. Have you ever had ANY type of training or checkride failures?
7. Have you ever had any accidents, incidents or violations? If so what were the circumstances and time frame?
3. If you could change one thing about your role and/or your company, what would it be?
01-08-2019, 08:48 AM
Passed Recurrent
Joined APC: Mar 2016
Position: FO
Posts: 209
This is what i was told a while back. Not sure if has changed too much or not, but here you go. Best of luck to you
1. Please conduct a full self-resume review. Please touch on the reasone for leaving each employer, including lateral moves and termination.
2. Of the 5 core values besides safety, which one would your family and friends say best describes you?
3. If you could change one thing about your role and/or your company, what would it be?
4. Tell us about a time you overcame an obsticle on the job.
5. How many flight hours do you have in the past 12 months
6. Have you ever had ANY type of training or checkride failures?
7. Have you ever had any accidents, incidents or violations? If so what were the circumstances and time frame?
1. Please conduct a full self-resume review. Please touch on the reasone for leaving each employer, including lateral moves and termination.
2. Of the 5 core values besides safety, which one would your family and friends say best describes you?
3. If you could change one thing about your role and/or your company, what would it be?
4. Tell us about a time you overcame an obsticle on the job.
5. How many flight hours do you have in the past 12 months
6. Have you ever had ANY type of training or checkride failures?
7. Have you ever had any accidents, incidents or violations? If so what were the circumstances and time frame?
01-08-2019, 08:49 AM
Passed Recurrent
Joined APC: Mar 2016
Position: FO
Posts: 209
I’d imagine you shouldn’t bad mouth your company....
01-08-2019, 11:05 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2015
Posts: 917
“New Day, New Jet” is something that every Airline Pilot has heard during training...
I have never heard that in my entire airline career, and this is my 3rd airline.
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