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Old 05-18-2017, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot
Class seniority dictates Equip/base, by age.
Its usually JFK 320 Bos 320 and maybe lgb. Same for the 190 except no lgb.

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How hard would be to get JFK 320, these days? Thanks
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Old 05-18-2017, 09:38 PM
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How hard would be to get JFK 320, these days? Thanks
If youre top 50% in your hire class then 100% chance of JFK 320. Occasionally the entire class is jfk320. Really varies class to class. I got jfk bus in 2013 and its been a seniority carpet ride. Ymmv.
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Old 05-18-2017, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot
If youre top 50% in your hire class then 100% chance of JFK 320. Occasionally the entire class is jfk320. Really varies class to class. I got jfk bus in 2013 and its been a seniority carpet ride. Ymmv.
Some classes only had one bus a year or so ago. This fall/winter/spring I anticipate that happening again as the transitions happen from the next couple bids.
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Old 05-19-2017, 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
Some classes only had one bus a year or so ago. This fall/winter/spring I anticipate that happening again as the transitions happen from the next couple bids.


Exactly. Because of the 2 year seat lock everything runs on that cycle. I believe we are about to have a ton of guys on the 190 eligible to bid the bus on the next two system bids.

I would expect 190 new hire slots later this year probably starting in sept-October ish


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Old 05-19-2017, 01:33 PM
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So would you say it would be better off to be hired in the front end of the 190 slots rather than the rear end of the 320 slots?


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Old 05-19-2017, 03:44 PM
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So would you say it would be better off to be hired in the front end of the 190 slots rather than the rear end of the 320 slots?


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Yes, because that would determine the length of your reserve time.... When I got hired I was trail end of Airbus, spent well over a year on reserve, while the 190 guys were ahead of the 190 cycle sat 4 weeks reserve in JFK, now it is reversing again...
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Old 05-19-2017, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by capt707
Yes, because that would determine the length of your reserve time.... When I got hired I was trail end of Airbus, spent well over a year on reserve, while the 190 guys were ahead of the 190 cycle sat 4 weeks reserve in JFK, now it is reversing again...


Do you think there will be a mass exodus off the E190 (both seats) due to the fleet review?
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Old 05-19-2017, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Southerner
Do you think there will be a mass exodus off the E190 (both seats) due to the fleet review?


If people listened to Robins address he even mentioned it would take years and the current leases don't come up for another 5 years.

I don't see another way out of them early. No one wants the old 190's on the open market. I would say anyone thinking of upgrading to the 190 or new hires to the 190 are safe for at least a few more years.

I'm sure some guys are scared to bid to it now though. Just pilot nature.


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Old 05-20-2017, 06:32 PM
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The 15 minutes after block in is to allow for post-flight duties. It also has nothing to do with FDP, so has no bearing on legality.

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Fair point. Unfortunately, to my knowledge the company can change the FOM to their liking regardless of CBA. Only thing we can argue is if the post flight duties take longer than 15 minutes, be sure to make crew services change your duty off times for legality.
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Old 05-20-2017, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
The 15 minutes after block in is to allow for post-flight duties. It also has nothing to do with FDP, so has no bearing on legality.
Unless it affects your show the next day if you were min rest. Also can affect duty rig pay.
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