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Old 05-10-2017, 05:50 AM
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4th year JB is equivalent to Regional? Zero credibility. Unless for some reason you were a regional lifer who decided to make the move.
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Old 05-10-2017, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by citxls
4th year JB is equivalent to Regional? Zero credibility. Unless for some reason you were a regional lifer who decided to make the move.
If you think that you don't realize how far behind JB is: No 200% premium pay for open time pickups, vacation doesn't open up your schedule for three weeks allowing you to pick up open time, restoration of a lost day off later in the month, less sick time, lower 401k, muuuuch more expensive health care, lol policy etc etc

A couple of bucks more in pay rate doesn't compensate all that.
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Old 05-10-2017, 07:29 AM
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Have to agree. Either seat now 4th year is more than any RJ capt was making that I'm aware of. Seniority and ability to get the desired schedule is another story... but that's life in the airline.
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Old 05-10-2017, 10:24 AM
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Is anyone aware of what is currently considered competitive in terms of being called for an interview?
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Old 05-10-2017, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by KingAirpilot90
Are classes usually every two weeks? Thanks!
That's the way it's been except a few classes ago they skipped a week and went with 3 weeks in between. Next class is 5/24.

Anyone know if another all JFK 320 class or how many new hires are expected to be in it?
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Old 05-10-2017, 06:04 PM
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I see the app window closed. I thought I heard it was going to be open for a bit longer.
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Old 05-11-2017, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Pilot417
That's the way it's been except a few classes ago they skipped a week and went with 3 weeks in between. Next class is 5/24.

Anyone know if another all JFK 320 class or how many new hires are expected to be in it?
I don't have any official numbers but the rumor is last current class was all Airbus about about 12-15. JFK needs a lot of 320 FO's so I would expect more mostly airbus classes until more bid off the 190.
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Old 05-11-2017, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by clemb8
Is anyone aware of what is currently considered competitive in terms of being called for an interview?
That is a difficult question to answer. The airlines hiring department uses a targeted hiring method meaning it selects candidates from different buckets. Corp, mil, commuter etc. Flight times also vary but, again, the airline uses a very targeted number. Currently the lower time and less PIC you have the better candidate you are. The airline is aware that more qualified pilots are using this as a stepping stone.

As with all carriers you have to apply and see who calls.
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Old 05-11-2017, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by benzoate
That is a difficult question to answer. The airlines hiring department uses a targeted hiring method meaning it selects candidates from different buckets. Corp, mil, commuter etc. Flight times also vary but, again, the airline uses a very targeted number. Currently the lower time and less PIC you have the better candidate you are. The airline is aware that more qualified pilots are using this as a stepping stone.

As with all carriers you have to apply and see who calls.
The joke will be on JB HR soon enough. The legacies are into their second tier candidate pools, and low/zero PIC is no longer a barrier to entry to a well-paying airline job. The more time that goes by, the looser their hiring standards will be, and the previously "uncompetitive" JB pilots who are sick of being treated poorly and compensated 30-40% less than their peers will be prime candidates at the legacies.

There really is no way to stem this tide other than offering a TA that is on par with our peers (the Big 4). Sure, hiring BOS locals and Gateway 8 may help their cause, but not enough to keep up with the exodus.
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Old 05-11-2017, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by atrdriver
The joke will be on JB HR soon enough. The legacies are into their second tier candidate pools, and low/zero PIC is no longer a barrier to entry to a well-paying airline job. The more time that goes by, the looser their hiring standards will be, and the previously "uncompetitive" JB pilots who are sick of being treated poorly and compensated 30-40% less than their peers will be prime candidates at the legacies.

There really is no way to stem this tide other than offering a TA that is on par with our peers (the Big 4). Sure, hiring BOS locals and Gateway 8 may help their cause, but not enough to keep up with the exodus.
atrdriver I sure hope you are right because based on current attrition numbers pilots aren't leaving. Many continue to complain but the numbers don't bear any sort of exodus.

We continue to hear arguments for why the airline will suffer from a hiring standpoint but pilots continue to apply and nothing close to the cancellation of trips at spirit is happening at Jetblue. Perhaps if the pilot group was more cohesive things would change?
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