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Old 05-04-2017, 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyward
Yes.

This is part of the email I received...

"... Space will be limited and pilots must have an active application on file. Registration will open May 5 on the ALPA Fee-for-Departure Committee (FFDC) website. This event is for active ALPA members/pilots only. "

Funny they specify "active". Wouldn't want to open it up to furloughed ("inactive") ALPA pilots or anything, lol.
or ones that are not paying their dues?...we have plenty here.
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Old 05-04-2017, 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by hyperboy
or ones that are not paying their dues?...we have plenty here.
That's true, and I'm sure that's ALPA's actual intention.
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Old 05-04-2017, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyward
Yes.

This is part of the email I received...

"... Space will be limited and pilots must have an active application on file. Registration will open May 5 on the ALPA Fee-for-Departure Committee (FFDC) website. This event is for active ALPA members/pilots only. "

Funny they specify "active". Wouldn't want to open it up to furloughed ("inactive") ALPA pilots or anything, lol.
I would, if you're serious and not just complaining, e-mail Paul Ryder and inquire to him about what that statement means. ALPA has extensive Furlough Support resources as well and I have to imagine they would welcome furloughed pilots to any of the open houses being put on by the FFD team.
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Old 05-04-2017, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by MovinUp
I would, if you're serious and not just complaining, e-mail Paul Ryder and inquire to him about what that statement means. ALPA has extensive Furlough Support resources as well and I have to imagine they would welcome furloughed pilots to any of the open houses being put on by the FFD team.
100% agree. This is about non-dues paying freeloaders, not furloughed dudes.
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Old 05-04-2017, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Cloud5urfer
Last recurrent I did, in February, the chief pilot briefing talked about application numbers and didn't seem too concerned (in the 2,000 range if I recall). Does anyone have the most recent copy of the presentation? I know they make it available if people ask for it.


Gone are the days of 6000+ competitive resumes on file (circa 2011), I wonder just how deep the realization has penetrated.
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Old 05-04-2017, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by stevenscreek
Gone are the days of 6000+ competitive resumes on file (circa 2011), I wonder just how deep the realization has penetrated.
I spoke to a CP helper 3 weeks ago and although attrition numbers are lower than expected, he said B6 is aware of the recruiting problem they face. Its probably the ONLY reason that they have continued to work on this.
Staffing is really the only leverage we have.
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Old 05-04-2017, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot
I spoke to a CP helper 3 weeks ago and although attrition numbers are lower than expected, he said B6 is aware of the recruiting problem they face. Its probably the ONLY reason that they have continued to work on this.
Staffing is really the only leverage we have.
Pretty sure the threat of a strike is pretty good leverage.
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Old 05-04-2017, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Xtreme87
Pretty sure the threat of a strike is pretty good leverage.
Thats not leverage until its voted on. Same with picketing. Until then, the only thing driving B6 is the fear of a staffing shortage-And its coming.
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Old 05-04-2017, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot
I spoke to a CP helper 3 weeks ago and although attrition numbers are lower than expected, he said B6 is aware of the recruiting problem they face. Its probably the ONLY reason that they have continued to work on this.
Staffing is really the only leverage we have.
The juicers on here don't want to hear it. They have a different "opinion".
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Old 05-04-2017, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
The juicers on here don't want to hear it. They have a different "opinion".
Maybe- I think we're all coming around to the idea that B6 is a less-than-honorable company that needs to be scared before theyll do the right thing with a CBA- and imo, pay rates will have go to mediation.

Im ****ed, in general, with B6s 2-faced behavior. Obviously, I dont want the company to be fatally injured, but if mngment were forced to squirm a bit, Id sleep soundly.
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