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Old 05-02-2017, 06:33 AM
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For years every airline had the same posted minimums and they are just that, minimums - a starting point. The difference between two carriers who don't require a degree is one is still attracting the higher qualified pilot and able to hire such individual while the other one is attracting the pilot who simply meets the minimums because the other carrier won't hire said pilot.

It doesn't matter what the minimums are when you attract the most qualified from all applicants.

Jetblue is not attracting the highest qualified for a variety of reasons to include job is not viewed as a career(read compensation and benefits) or the targeted hiring is not aimed at the most qualified but rather those who are unable to leave in short order.
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Old 05-02-2017, 07:11 AM
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JB is not hurting getting applicants... yet. They are still getting some very qualified guys, the questions is, how many will stick around past year 1? A lot of the new hires are guys escaping the crappy and dying regionals, and JB is that escape, but I can tell you a good majority don't plan on making JB a career.
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Old 05-02-2017, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by capt707
JB is not hurting getting applicants... yet. They are still getting some very qualified guys, the questions is, how many will stick around past year 1? A lot of the new hires are guys escaping the crappy and dying regionals, and JB is that escape, but I can tell you a good majority don't plan on making JB a career.
I heard about 1,000 total applicants in the January window, not just competitive applicants. Just something I heard, but if it's true, I would say that they are hurting right now.
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Old 05-02-2017, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by capt707
JB is not hurting getting applicants... yet. They are still getting some very qualified guys, the questions is, how many will stick around past year 1? A lot of the new hires are guys escaping the crappy and dying regionals, and JB is that escape, but I can tell you a good majority don't plan on making JB a career.
^^^this^^^ unless you live in Boston. Those guys love the short drive and I get that.
For others its a stone to step on or over.
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Old 05-02-2017, 09:08 PM
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The chief pilot in mco at recurrent said the app pool is shrinking rapidly. About 1200 competitive applicants but he doesn't see us getting more than 500 in the next year the way it's going. He also knows all those apps are also out at every legacy as well. Didn't paint a pretty picture. He knows we need a good contract to attract pilots.
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Old 05-02-2017, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by hilltopflyer
The chief pilot in mco at recurrent said the app pool is shrinking rapidly. About 1200 competitive applicants but he doesn't see us getting more than 500 in the next year the way it's going. He also knows all those apps are also out at every legacy as well. Didn't paint a pretty picture. He knows we need a good contract to attract pilots.
Last recurrent I did, in February, the chief pilot briefing talked about application numbers and didn't seem too concerned (in the 2,000 range if I recall). Does anyone have the most recent copy of the presentation? I know they make it available if people ask for it.
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Old 05-03-2017, 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by hilltopflyer
The chief pilot in mco at recurrent said the app pool is shrinking rapidly. About 1200 competitive applicants but he doesn't see us getting more than 500 in the next year the way it's going. He also knows all those apps are also out at every legacy as well. Didn't paint a pretty picture. He knows we need a good contract to attract pilots.
Sadly, all we need is an applicant with an ATP. I would imagine "competitive" is a movable goal post.
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Old 05-03-2017, 09:43 AM
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Quick question, I saw the open house on June 1st is an ALPA event. I'm assuming you have to be part of an ALPA airline in order to attend?
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Old 05-03-2017, 09:13 PM
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Old 05-03-2017, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by denverpilot7
Quick question, I saw the open house on June 1st is an ALPA event. I'm assuming you have to be part of an ALPA airline in order to attend?
Yes.

This is part of the email I received...

"... Space will be limited and pilots must have an active application on file. Registration will open May 5 on the ALPA Fee-for-Departure Committee (FFDC) website. This event is for active ALPA members/pilots only. "

Funny they specify "active". Wouldn't want to open it up to furloughed ("inactive") ALPA pilots or anything, lol.
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