txbusdriver

Yep, at JetBlue it's low cost at any cost, to you!

txbusdriver

Shake up in the training department would be a very good thing. Too many empires, too much ego, go fly the line and take a break from simulator world.

fosters

Why are people leaving so much? Where are they going? JB was my #2 choice. Their pay rates were good and they have something most majors don't, the ability to earn soft time. Like the guy above who is at 110 hours. That would be unheard of at some of the other carriers.

rdc034

Whoa ... this has created quite the buzz ...

If this turns out to be the case, I wonder if we'll see a slow in interviewing. Anyone get or heard of an invite to interview for a date after the 11/18/19th of March round?

txbusdriver

-At second or third year pay you will make way more at legacy carriers.
-Health care is abysmal.
-Retirement is less than industry average.
-Very few retirements.
-No scope and limited job protections.

Fieldinsight

Fosters, great questions. Keep in mind this is merely a message board and facts get distorted for whatever agenda a poster has in mind.

Continue to do your own due diligence. Read about the history of the companies you are considering; see how many pilot groups have lost pensions, been furloughed, been parties to lawsuits against their unions for misrepresentation (not to mention how nearly bankrupt certain unions will become if they don't get more members due to the costs of said lawsuits). Look at the upgrade times and the growth of the companies (or contraction as the case may be). Look at age of fleet and new aircraft orders, corporate debt, earnings history, management salaries, all that good stuff.

FWIW I spoke to a very senior Capt at one of the largest legacy carriers a few days ago who said he knows several guys that were recently called back after being furloughed. They all said no thanks and chose to stay at JB.

aldonite7667

BS alert. Working here, I can tell you that unless those pilots are in management positions or are to old to return to the legacy you are talking about for a full career, they are leaving.

As for the part concerning due diligence, don't forget to include that under the DR JetBlue pilots work rules can and have been changed by an email and never for the betterment of pilot QOL. Also, be sure and pencil out the math over the course of your career. Just because our rates look good doesn't present the whole picture. Our insurance and retirement is among the worst in the industry. We don't even compare to a Starbucks barista with our insurance.

My advice, if you come here, keep looking.

RJer

Or better yet, if you come here help make it better, many of us actually do not want to leave-The up coming vote is proof

aldonite7667

That's a better answer.

Fieldinsight

What work rules and how have those changes hurt your QOL?