TonyC

Hi Carolyn,

The story told here is tragic. I'm curious to know if you have made any effort to get your job back, or to report the incident to the FAA?



You may think, "They've got me dead to rights, someone saw me sitting there with my eyes closed. I have no recourse." On the contrary, you have recourse and reason to persue it, even if you're well on your way to a happy, successful career in nursing. For starters, a crewmember who is fatigued and states so is in no condition to make the judgment call as to whether she is fit to fly another TransCon leg. Once she states she is fatigued, as I believe you did, the supervisor who coerces her to work anyway (which would have been a fairly easy task given your admitted impaired judgment) becomes culpable. She has at that point endangered the lives of the passengers and crew, and should be caused to take responsibility for her actions.

I believe it is in the best interest of the airline industry that such actions not go unrewarded. What are your feelings on the subject?




Thanks,

TonyC








- The truth only hurts if it should -

LAfrequentflyer

Tony,

The young lady needs to speak to a lawyer. I wish I knew one to recommend.


-LA

rickair7777

In a union shop, there wouldn't have been any arbitration. It would have been a routine "firing" followed by a month off while the union got her the job back.

This is the way most firings are handled unless they involve gross misconduct or being drunk.

captain_drew

JEEZE !!

Did you just roll in from Mars or Venus!?!?

OF COURSE . . they won’t fire you for ‘trying to form a union’. . they will find some other ‘cover‘ reason. . but the result is the same.

Just like our mistreated JB F/A . . I DOUBT . . VERY MUCH. . one of her fellow crew turned her in. . they were as ‘zonked’ as she was. My guess is the Supervisor bogused up a ‘write up’ . . having taken exception to the attempt to call ‘fatigued’.

mike734

Cut me some slack Drew. That is just an example of how you can not be fired for "any" reason. I know something about arbitration. I have been MEC chairman, Vice-chair, Sect/treas and editor of a newsletter. I have been on arbitrations and had a personal case arbitrated. I know about arbitrators and how they must maintain some balance or they won't get other jobs. The problem with termination cases is there is no grey area. The guy/gal either gets the job back or not.

Let's not argue this point any more. I would prefer to have my case heard by a judge. That is my opinion. It is bases on experience however.

captjns

Hi Carolyn --

My heart goes out to you.

You should contact OSHA. They have had great success in championing such cases.

The Department of Labor is another alternative too.

CarolynAL

Thanks guys,

I have been getting phone calls and emails from individuals all over, so much support has really helped me after all of this mess. Its really a great feeling, even if I am still fired! I wouldnt even want the job back now.....I would be a target. I am starting nursing school, so I am on a better track now, and the stress has literally disappeared from my life now that I dont have this job. My blood pressue is even down!

captjns

If you, and your attorney feel you are 100% correct, and the JB are 100% wrong, the you owe it to your fellow colleagues to persue this action to the end.

dckozak

18 posts and not one post from the JB kool aid crowd
Is any one surprised?? Dissapointed??

So what do you think?? Clams or Shrimp.

Av8tor

Most of the JetBlue crowd has moved to a private site. It's nice to only fight amongst ourselves over there.....