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05-01-2024, 05:47 AM

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PNWFlyer

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Originally Posted by nene

IDK, according to the company those employees are already paid slightly better than their union counterparts. It's the main reason the unions have such a hard time unionizing the other work groups. Mgmt is keen to stay one step ahead of the industry unions in pay/benefits.

I see you don’t know how this works or how this saves them money. It’s not about pay. Seems everyone has forgot what Delta did to their non-union work groups day 1 of COVID.

05-01-2024, 06:12 AM

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JayRalstonSmith

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Originally Posted by PeakEGT

They do all that and a bit more. Don’t get me wrong I’m rooting for us, but legacies have assurances in place when things go awry. Be it endless rebooking options. We rely on the leisure market and these individuals expect to get to their vacation at a certain time and day and when someone from BDL to SJU missed their flight and their cruise, guess who they’re notbooking next time? even if they got a smile on their way out the door.

So which is it? Smile and on time do NOT return profits, or they do return profits?

05-01-2024, 10:00 AM

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PeakEGT

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Originally Posted by JayRalstonSmith

So which is it? Smile and on time do NOT return profits, or they do return profits?

What I’m saying is it’ll take a lot more than that. With others being able to flawlessly be on time and give good service

05-01-2024, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by PeakEGT

What I’m saying is it’ll take a lot more than that. With others being able to flawlessly be on time and give good service

Lapel pins appear not to help. If I wear my lapel pin on my uniform, but smile while doing so does it then cancel out to even?

05-01-2024, 01:23 PM

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Lapel pins appear not to help. If I wear my lapel pin on my uniform, but smile while doing so does it then cancel out to even?

For every Israel sympathizer that gets pulled off a JetBlue flight, there are a thousand pro-Palestinian customers clamoring to take his seat. That's how we will win the culture wars.

05-01-2024, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluediver

Lapel pins appear not to help. If I wear my lapel pin on my uniform, but smile while doing so does it then cancel out to even?

Didnt say anything about a lapel pin but I’m sure you’ll jump on wearing your favorite value.

05-01-2024, 03:41 PM

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Bluediver

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Originally Posted by PeakEGT

Didnt say anything about a lapel pin but I’m sure you’ll jump on wearing your favorite value.

I didn’t say you did. I just thought it curious that we heard about smiles yesterday and today an article comes out about an incident with pins involved. We’re trying to make money here folks. Express yourself on your own time as I’ve done here.

05-01-2024, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by PNWFlyer

for the record Delta is a profitable Air Line because the have 2 very large non-union work forces. All the other stuff is just icing on the cake.

So Delta gets a revenue premium because they have some non-union work groups? Um, ok.

05-01-2024, 07:59 PM

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PNWFlyer

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Originally Posted by Bluedriver

So Delta gets a revenue premium because they have some non-union work groups? Um, ok.

was talking about how they can turn a profit. They can change work rules pay protections you name it with the stroke of pen. that is how they turn a profit when Union shops can’t.

05-02-2024, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by PNWFlyer

was talking about how they can turn a profit. They can change work rules pay protections you name it with the stroke of pen. that is how they turn a profit when Union shops can’t.

wrong. Delta turns a huge profit because they codeshare a significant portion of their wide body flying and get a share of that revenue.