Contract Negotiations Officially Begin
04-04-2024, 07:01 PM
#12
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Joined APC: Oct 2015
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hope this is a good lesson for everyone (including B6ALPA) to never assume you’re going to get them next time when you get a garbage CBA extension that fixes none of the glaring holes in the contract. Told my reps this would happen. When they didn’t have enough applicants a year or two ago to fill the hiring need to even cover attrition, they needed it more than the pilots. That’s leverage. “Nah, done deal. JCBA and the keys to single operating certificate is the real key to all the leverage.” And they still won’t admit they were wrong
04-04-2024, 07:21 PM
#13
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this might help you guys out…
if it’s not enough they have another one with more leverage.
04-05-2024, 03:33 AM
#14
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Joined APC: Jul 2022
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https://www.bigtoolstore.com/LEVERAGE-BAR-KEY77349-5690/
this might help you guys out…
if it’s not enough they have another one with more leverage.
this might help you guys out…
if it’s not enough they have another one with more leverage.
04-05-2024, 06:37 AM
#16
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Position: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
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hey I love using all of the runway or taxing at a safe speed. But with Carl here looking at our CEO I doubt she is in a hurry to do anything especially with the snap up. Probably why the company went with that, it buys them time. Let's just say the back pay/ bonus clause is going to be VERY important. VERY
04-05-2024, 07:50 AM
#17
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hey I love using all of the runway or taxing at a safe speed. But with Carl here looking at our CEO I doubt she is in a hurry to do anything especially with the snap up. Probably why the company went with that, it buys them time. Let's just say the back pay/ bonus clause is going to be VERY important. VERY
04-05-2024, 11:43 AM
#18
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Full back pay / retro / and/or otherwise decent signing bonus is a foreign concept to this pilot group and B6ALPA. My reps disagreed every time I discussed it with them, discounting its importance and asking what I was willing to give up for it. Not getting my hopes up that anything will change next time…been there done that. But I’ll continue to shout out the importance of it every chance I get…probably just wasting my breath though.
04-06-2024, 09:09 AM
#19
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jul 2023
Posts: 51
hope this is a good lesson for everyone (including B6ALPA) to never assume you’re going to get them next time when you get a garbage CBA extension that fixes none of the glaring holes in the contract. Told my reps this would happen. When they didn’t have enough applicants a year or two ago to fill the hiring need to even cover attrition, they needed it more than the pilots. That’s leverage. “Nah, done deal. JCBA and the keys to single operating certificate is the real key to all the leverage.” And they still won’t admit they were wrong
04-06-2024, 09:15 AM
#20
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Posts: 429
There is zero chance the company would have been able to weather the attrition/lack of applicants storm without a raise. You clearly can’t comprehend the “they needed it more than the pilots” part of the equation. To assume that B6 pilots would still be making $25 less is beyond asinine. Hope you enjoy your sht contract for the next 4-6 years. Especially those beautiful reserve grid(s)that lineholders didn’t realize would affect them too. Keep voting yes to the first turd you see though. Especially if there’s some fear put out by the union that you can’t get anything more now, it’ll take a couple years and there’s too much risk to say no to ask for more, and that you’ll get them next time.
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