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04-10-2024, 03:54 PM
#101
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 787
Oof. Some of those were tough to read, but kind of exactly what we all kind of thought has been happening. No management skin in the game. The company is bank account to be run dry.
$38 for each espresso. Yow.
Not good.
On a side note this poster seems very plugged in and very much opposed to anything "premium" being done by the company. If it's not Baldanza I don't know who else it could be.
$38 for each espresso. Yow.
Not good.
On a side note this poster seems very plugged in and very much opposed to anything "premium" being done by the company. If it's not Baldanza I don't know who else it could be.
04-10-2024, 04:11 PM
#102
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2017
Posts: 71
https://www.airliners.net/forum/view...e55c#p23296989
This person got their first pilot certificate in 1961 and they appear to be canadian.
This person got their first pilot certificate in 1961 and they appear to be canadian.
04-10-2024, 04:29 PM
#103
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2015
Posts: 687
https://www.airliners.net/forum/view...e55c#p23296989
This person got their first pilot certificate in 1961 and they appear to be canadian.
This person got their first pilot certificate in 1961 and they appear to be canadian.
04-10-2024, 04:31 PM
#104
SDQ Base Chief
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: 320 CA
Posts: 5,661
I’m thinking someone involved in the financing side (as he clued in to). Maybe a recently retired analyst? Either way, it really doesn’t matter who he/she is. The insight into the behind the scenes stuff is very interesting. And yes, troubling to see things are as bad as we all guessed they were.
04-10-2024, 04:38 PM
#105
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2015
Posts: 687
I’m thinking someone involved in the financing side (as he clued in to). Maybe a recently retired analyst? Either way, it really doesn’t matter who he/she is. The insight into the behind the scenes stuff is very interesting. And yes, troubling to see things are as bad as we all guessed they were.
On the bright side, there’s a lot that can be fixed right? It’s not like we’re trying everything and it just isn’t making money. It’s nice to find fire where there is smoke.
04-10-2024, 04:45 PM
#106
SDQ Base Chief
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: 320 CA
Posts: 5,661
04-10-2024, 05:17 PM
#107
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2019
Posts: 998
04-10-2024, 07:14 PM
#108
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Joined APC: Oct 2017
Posts: 333
The problem is that the only things I'm hearing from the "grown ups" is that we need to give up on having a better product. No one seems to be valuing what we offer or talking about how we can drive awareness and induce demand. If this person is to be believed Robin was let go because he refused to compromise on seat pitch. How will we survive if we offer nothing but the same crappy experience as AA or UAL but with less reliable flights and a crummy network?
04-10-2024, 10:39 PM
#109
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: blueJet
Posts: 4,534
The problem is that the only things I'm hearing from the "grown ups" is that we need to give up on having a better product. No one seems to be valuing what we offer or talking about how we can drive awareness and induce demand. If this person is to be believed Robin was let go because he refused to compromise on seat pitch. How will we survive if we offer nothing but the same crappy experience as AA or UAL but with less reliable flights and a crummy network?
04-10-2024, 11:06 PM
#110
On Reserve
Joined APC: Dec 2022
Posts: 21
If the poster had a more honest assessment of Spirit's current financial and operational condition, I'd take it bit more seriously. He condescendingly dismisses any critique of the Spirit brand and business model, guarantees not a single pilot will quit due to ACY closing, called Spirit's balance sheet "A-OK" (really?), called the airline an operational on-time machine, etc.
The individual is clearly upset with B6 and whatever transpired behind closed doors, but this is corporate mud-slinging and none of us know what was really discussed.
The merger was doomed from the get-go with Robin & Friends spoiling the Spirit/Frontier party, so not surprised there's some people unhappy with us.
With that said, it was time for Robin to go, but I'm not optimistic our current leadership will right the ship in time.
The individual is clearly upset with B6 and whatever transpired behind closed doors, but this is corporate mud-slinging and none of us know what was really discussed.
The merger was doomed from the get-go with Robin & Friends spoiling the Spirit/Frontier party, so not surprised there's some people unhappy with us.
With that said, it was time for Robin to go, but I'm not optimistic our current leadership will right the ship in time.
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