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Old 02-08-2024, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by avi8orco
10 years barely gets you top 1/4 of the FO list in MCO. There’s 20 year FOs on that list.

Then you’ll be pulling gear for about 6 more after that. When you finally get in the left seat you’ll be on short call flying all the redeye turns you can handle because that’s about all that’s in open time.
The last system bid had 10 year guys in the award. I don't have the specifics handy, but you can be a junior captain at around 10 years in MCO. Yes, you'll be flying with FOs senior to you, no doubt.
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Old 02-08-2024, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by gottagetout
Yes…..any idea how it is at other places?
From what I've seen, the deductible and out-of-pocket max at the big 3 are about half of what ours is for a similar cost per month, for example.
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Old 02-08-2024, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ProPilotBlue
The last system bid had 10 year guys in the award. I don't have the specifics handy, but you can be a junior captain at around 10 years in MCO. Yes, you'll be flying with FOs senior to you, no doubt.
Kinda. The Junior guy was already at 10 years last year when he was awarded a December 2024 upgrade. He'll be a 12-year guy (or if you rather, he'll be in his 13th year) when he finally gets his Captain bars.
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Old 02-08-2024, 12:36 PM
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So with the reasonable assumption Spirit is toast, when do we start our own contract negotiations in earnest?
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Old 02-08-2024, 01:23 PM
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So with the reasonable assumption Spirit is toast, when do we start our own contract negotiations in earnest?
This and has anyone smarter than I figure out what our MRA(snap-up) will be this August.
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Old 02-08-2024, 01:29 PM
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This and has anyone smarter than I figure out what our MRA(snap-up) will be this August.
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Old 02-08-2024, 04:25 PM
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So with the reasonable assumption Spirit is toast, when do we start our own contract negotiations in earnest?
All the answers can be found in the extension agreement. Short story is 30 days after termination of agreement and plan to merge.
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Old 02-08-2024, 05:02 PM
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I think it's a couple dollars higher than that. That doesn't seem to include UA's 321 or NEO/XLR rates.

I came up with these numbers, which could be wrong.

I dunno how they'll calculate the average. Will they add all the applicable rates for all the airlines together, then average those? Or calculate an average rate for each airline then average those?

UA: 358.97 + 360.85 + 374.36 = 364.73 average
DL: 358.97 + 360.85 = 359.91 average
AA: 353.73 + 366.98 = 360.36 average
SWA: 364.52
ALK: 340.25



Overall Average
359.94 (all applicable rates divided by 9)
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357.95 (average from each airline divided by 5
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Originally Posted by todd1200
I think it's a couple dollars higher than that. That doesn't seem to include UA's 321 or NEO/XLR rates.

I came up with these numbers, which could be wrong.

I dunno how they'll calculate the average. Will they add all the applicable rates for all the airlines together, then average those? Or calculate an average rate for each airline then average those?

UA: 358.97 + 360.85 + 374.36 = 364.73 average
DL: 358.97 + 360.85 = 359.91 average
AA: 353.73 + 366.98 = 360.36 average
SWA: 364.52
ALK: 340.25



Overall Average
359.94 (all applicable rates divided by 9)
or
357.95 (average from each airline divided by 5
The way it was explained to me each airline would get an average then that number would be the one added and divided by 5 like your example. However your rate seem to be the current or 2023 rates. Don’t most of them hit a +5% ish by August?
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Old 02-08-2024, 06:21 PM
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The way it was explained to me each airline would get an average then that number would be the one added and divided by 5 like your example. However your rate seem to be the current or 2023 rates. Don’t most of them hit a +5% ish by August?
For UA, DL, and SW, I used Jan. 2024 numbers (the next chart I see for each is Jan. 2025).
For AA, I used May 2024 (next chart is May 2025).
For ALK, I used their Sept. 2023 rate, since their snap up is one month after our calculation date.

I hope I'm missing some other snap-up, would be great to be wrong!
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